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Some days ago I received a Parosphromenus stock list from a German friend that he found announced at a website in Asia; the exact source is unknown to me.
I display it here simply for discussion. In my view several things are interesting:– it comprises nine species
– they use rather poetic english names for the fish
– deissneri is mentioned, but is it deissneri? Mostly it is not
– pahuensis is mentioned, the only species from Kalimantan Timur?MASTER LIST MAI 2011
[i]Code Common Name Scientific Name Size QTY 1/8 BOX QTY 1/4 BOX Price
11000 Angel Licorice Gourami Parosphromenus anjunganensis 1.2″ 125 250 $2,10
11040 Blue Line Licorice Gourami Parosphromenus Sp. Blue Line M 125 250 $1,80
11080 Moon Spot Licorice Gourami Parosphromenus Linkei M (2.5cm) 125 250 $2,92
11180 Ornate Licorice Gourami Parosphromenus ornaticauda M 125 250 $4,08
11190 Paradise Licorice Gourami Parosphromenus Deissneri 1.25″ 125 250 $1,75
11310 Green Speckled Licorice Gourami Parosphromenus Sintangensis 1.0” 125 250 $2,50
11340 Bintan Licorice Gourami Parosphromenus Bintan M 125 250 $2,10
11530 Melak Licorice Gourami Parosphromenus Pahuensis 2.5-3cm 125 250 $2,92
11550 Filament Licorice Gourami Parasphromenus Filamentosus M=3cm 125 250 $2,10 [/i]i’ve tried contacting patrick of singapore but he’s really unresponsive. It’s sad that we have to go through the roundabout route to get licorice gouramies.
After reading this I just phoned Horst Linke asking him whether he could influence his good friend Pat, but he said: no, he is as he is.
So let us hope that things will develop to the better.Jit, at the end of July I will be in Malaysia again with two friends. We want to start our trip in Kuala Lumpur before driving through the country to the northeast. We are not Pat, but if you be interested we can meet us in Malaysia. Write me a short message if you want. Definitely is it also interesting for us to get to know malaysian friends of parosphromenus and our project!
Christian Hinz
Last week’s labyrinth fish availability:
BETTAS WILD
Betta Blue Spot Betta Cocinna
Fire Betta Betta Rutilans
Ninja Betta Betta Foerschi
Betta Peacock Betta Imbellis
Pink Pearl Betta Betta smaragdina
Betta Red Skirt Betta Falx
Scorpion Betta Betta Brownorum
Gold Dragon Betta Betta Unimaculata
Blue Damsel Betta Betta Kratois
Borneo Pear Spot Betta Betta cf edithae von Palangkaraya
Zebra Betta Betta patoti
Red Cherry Betta Betta Channoides
Bordeaux Betta Betta Burdigala
Blue Firefly Betta Betta Dimidiata
Gold Stripe Ninja Betta Betta Mandor
Blue Moon Betta Betta cf uberis-kubu
Pumpkin Betta Betta Simplex
Arithmatic Betta Betta Pi
Sakura Betta Betta ideii
Golden Ninja Betta Betta Strohi
Samurai Betta Betta Pallifina
Rose Red Dragon Betta Betta Compuncta
Assorted Multi Color Crowntail Female Betta Betta splendens
Blue Dragon Betta Betta ocellata
Strawberry Betta Betta AlbimarginataGOURAMIS/LICORICE GOURAMIS
Gourami Licorice Paradise Parosphromenus deissneri
Burmese Mini Chocolate Gourami Parasphaerichthys Ocellatus
Gourami Licorice Blue Line Parosphromenus blue line
Gourami Licorice Sintang Parosphromenus Sintangensis
Ornate Licorice Gourami Parosphromenus ornaticauda
Strawberry Licorice Gourami Parosphromenus Nagyi
Dwaft Gourami-Pair (Own breeding) Colisa lalia AVA TESTED VIRUS FREE!!
Dwaft Gourami-Male (Own breeding) Colisa lalia AVA TESTED VIRUS FREE!!
Noble Gourami Ctenops Nobilis
Filament Licorice Gourami Parasphromenus FilamentosusAsian Nandus Leaf Fish Nandus Nebulosus
Chinese Red Fin Paradise Fish Macropodus Concolor
Dark Knight Paradise Fish Macropodus Chinensis / “Shin Hi ” Wild
Hong Kong Flame Red Paradise Fish Macropodus hongkongensis “Chungshan”
Shanto Flame Red Paradise Fish Macropodus hongkongensis “Shanto”I’m planning to order this week.
MarkYes it’s an impressive list. But as licorice gouramis are concerned one should know, that
– “P. blue line” ist rightly called P. spec. blue line or better P. spec. aff. bintan “blue line” (an undescribed bintan-variant from Sumatra)
– there is not accepted name “P. sintangensis”. This is a trade name faking a scientific name without any scientific corroboration. The better trade name is P. spec. Sentang (from Sentang area on Sumatra, the most traded Parosphromenus of the last years; see Christian Hinz’ and mine new entries in our Forum), and
– “P. deissneri” is in all probability not that species (endemic from Bangka) but a bintan-variant; which one is unclear. I have never met a true deissneri in trade although most fish are sold bearing that name.
I should pay a hundred dollars if it were the real deissneri. It never was. We must be concerned about real deissneri, in nature and in our aquarium stocks. Some of the original habitats on Bangka are destroyed or polluted by tin-mine sewage. And unfortunately, our once big stock of that fine species in Europe has declined to one pair (?!) left at Helene Schoubye’s tanks …
– As P. nagyi is concerned one should know which local form is sold: the nominate form from the Kuantan area with white band in the caudal, the form from Cherating (with blue band in the caudal, the intermediate Cukai form, or the Pekan Nenasi form which has appeared during the last years in our stocks). In Europe we lost Cukai; the others are present in good numbers.Again I should like to ask if any one knows whether the t r u e deissneri from Bangka is on any stock list in Asia? Clearly, that name is to be found on most lists, but the fish sold as “deissneri” are not that species. We have only a few pairs left in Europe; it’s a pity. Even some good breeders have lost their stocks during the last year by accidents or Oodinium. The real deissneri are very impressive fish not to be mistaken for another species. And sonce it is endemic on Bangka island it is highly endangered. We should and would give it full attention.
Peter,
Patrick is the best and most likely source for them. I have gotten them from him on several occasions. The key is to ask for the collection location prior to ordering them. When I posted his list the last time, they were the right fish. He had a number of other species (rasboras, etc.) from Bangka Island in stock at that time, too.
Mark
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