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  • #3528
    Peter Finke
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    Robert Goldstein just mailed me this stocklist of an Oregon dealer:

    “These just appeared on the web site at Portland:

    1. Licorice Gourami, Parosphronemus deissneri, 1″, $5.00, 6 for $24.00
    2. Melak Licorice Gourami, Parosphromenus pahuensis NEW RARE, 1″+, $8.00,
    3. Filament Licorice Gourami, Parosphronemus filamentosa, 1.25″, $7.00, 6 For $36.00
    4. Ornate Licorice Gourami, Parosphronemus ornaticauda, .75″, $8.00, 6 for $40.00″

    It should be questionable whether (1.) is really deissneri

    #3611
    Peter Finke
    Participant

    Robert Goldstein mailed me a new stocklist commented by the Sales Manager of “The Wet Spot Tropical Fish” in Portland, and I think that should put here in extracts:

    “(…) Lately I have had several people ask about Licorice Gourami types. I’ve been asked not only about their availability, but also their popularity here in the U.S. Many of you have tried to research the few species we are offering and didn’t have much luck finding any information about them. That is because even though they have been available for years and they are unusual fish, there is no real demand for them among hobbyists. Because of this, I thought it was time to talk about these truly beautiful and underrated species.

    All Licorice Gouramis should be kept in a dimly lit tank with plenty of hiding places and minimal water flow. They prefer acidic water (5.5-7 pH) that is kept in cooler temperature ranges (71-78 degrees). In my experience these fish will only accept live foods, and therefore are not the best for newer hobbyists. These fish are extremely peaceful among other fish and I would highly recommend a group of the beautiful Sundadanio axelrodi “Neon Rasbora Blue Form” to go with them. Care is the same for all species of Licorice Gourami.

    Right now we have three types of Licorice Gouramis available:

    Parosphromenus deissneri “Licorice Gourami” is probably the most common of the group. I believe this to be one of the larger of the species, growing to just around 1.75″. But do not count it out because of its small size – this Labyrinth fish packs an amazing amount of color in its small stature! Its body has two horizontal black lines against three contrasting horizontal tan lines running down its body, and vibrant blue fins. This fish really stands out in any aquarium!

    The last two types we are offering are Parosphromenus filamentosus “Filament Licorice Gourami”, which has the same markings as its cousin, but has a spade-tail that is colored red and bordered with black and blue. The other is Parosphromeus ornaticauda “Ornate Licorice Gourami”, one of the smallest of the group at just over an inch! This fish is a darker color of brown and the lines are not as prominently black as its other cousins. The fins are black with bright white borders on both the anal and dorsal fin.

    Well, I hope this enlightens some of you about another part of the hobby. (…)

    I (PF) comment here only that this reveals that the so-called “deissneri” is not that species (it’s usually not that species). Where do I know? Because of the remark (in the descripton of filamentosus) that it had a spade-tail. The true male deissneri has too, even a filament similar to filamentosus. On the other hand are the colour markings very different. Compare the pictures in our species-descriptions. But which species is this alleged “deissneri” in fact? It’s impossible to say by that description. The “vibrant blue fins” may indicate “blue line” (from Sumatra), which is very often in trade in the last years (and mostly called “deissneri”), but it’s not described exactly enough to exclude many other possible species or variants.
    Anyway: There are dealers who try to make licorice gouramis more popular and their recommendations are, generally speaking, quite right.

    #3626
    Anthony Perry
    Participant

    Peter,

    Thank you for very much for posting my notes on this website. I find it to be very rewarding to know that you took the time to acknowledge my efforts to make Parosphromenus species more desirable among hobbyist. Mr. Goldstein has recently introduced me to this website, and I look forward to learning a lot more about this beautiful fish myself. I tried about 2 years ago to keep a pair of Licorice Gourami’s in a 5 gallon with some Boraras brigittae that was successful for about a year. Sadly I had to move and the fish were returned back to the shop. I am currently getting ready to set a seamless 12 gallon long for yet another Licorice Gourami Biotope. I am eager with anticipation for this next project. I believe I have decided on Parosphromenus parvulus for this tank.

    I have posted a picture of the P. deisnneri that we were sent. I will admit to not knowing too much on these species myself, and when I had wrote these notes I should have done a little more research before completing my notes. Perhaps this picture of one of the fish from our holding tank can help you identify the correct species. Though I am well aware it is probably too young too tell.

    Hope all is well!

    -Anthony

    #3627
    Anthony Perry
    Participant

    I should also post on here what we are currently available to get through our suppliers. If any of you are interested in any of these, please feel free to contact me at sales@wetspottropicalfish.com. I send out our master list every Friday. We are always wanting to know what people are looking for. So please don’t hesitate with your questions. Thanks!

    Parosphromenus Parvulus “Red Spotted Pygmy Licorice Gourami”
    Parosphromenus Bintan “Bintan Licorice Gourami”
    Parosphromenus Sintangensis “Green Speckled Licorice Gourami”
    Parosphromenus Linkei “Moon Spot Licorice Gourami”
    Parosphromenus Sp. “Blue Line”
    Parosphromenus anjunganensis “Angel Licorice Gourami”
    Parosphromenus ornaticauda “Ornate Licorice Gourami”
    Parosphromenus Deissneri “Paradise Licorice Gourami”
    Parasphromenus Filamentosus “Filament Licorice Gourami”

    -Anthony

    #3689
    Peter Finke
    Participant

    Anthony, this is quite an impressive list! It’s rather similar to the lists of fish that are available in Europe, only parvulus is seldom sold here although the fish has the widest distribution of any Parosphromenuswe know. In nature, it is very frequent indeed. But it is too small and too difficult for the average aquarist. Nevertheless, for the specialist the display dance of a full-coloured male is spectacular.
    The “deissneri” that you posted a photograph of is hardly to determine since it may be a female of a round-tail Parosphromenus-species. It is very likely not true deissneri as it is not in 95% of all fish named like this in Europe. At any rate it is remarkable that it is not confused with sp. blue line or sp. Sentang (“sintangensis”), as it is often in our country.
    Did you order and sell any from this list? A rather well-known species which is missing in it although sometimes sold in Germany is nagyi.

    #3691
    Anthony Perry
    Participant

    Peter,

    I did not have anyone reply to this. The guy we are getting fish from out of Singapore also shrunk his Parosphromenus list quite a bit. He now only has the following:

    Parosphromenus Sintangensis
    Parosphromenus Deissneri
    Parosphromenus ornaticauda
    Parosphromenus Sp. Blue Line

    We still have in stock ourselves this:

    Parosphronemus parvulus
    Parosphronemus ornaticauda
    Parosphronemus fiamentosa (few)
    Parosphronemus deissneri

    I know we don’t plan on ordering for probably 2 more weeks. So hopefully he’ll be able to come up with some more. We have had P. nagyi in the past just so you know Peter. Anyway, if any one would like to get a hold of some of these fish don’t be afraid to contact me. Thanks again Peter for the help!

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