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  • #4728
    bartian
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    Parosphromenus sp. “Langgam” and P. sp. “Danau Rasau” are now scientifically described:

    http://www.vertebrate-zoology.de/vz62-3/06_Vertebrate_Zoology_62-3_Schindler_399-406.pdf

    #4737
    Peter Finke
    Participant

    BARTIAN, I HAVE KNOWN OF THIS ALREADY SOME TIME BEFORE BY PERSONAL NOTES OF THE AUTHORS. IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO IGNORE THE OFFICIAL DATES CLEARLY PRINTED IN THIS ARTICLE. THE OFFICIAL RELEASING DATE OF THIS ISSUE OF THE JOURNAL IS DECEMBER 19th 2012 (see first page of the article, at the top right). IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO POST THIS LINK PUBLICLY A WEEK BEFORE EVEN IF THE ONLINE PUBLISHING DATE IS THE 10th! PRESENTLY I DO NOT KNOW HOW THIS EARLIER ONLINE PUBLISHING DATE COULD HAVE HAPPENEND; I WAS TOLD BY THE AUTHORS TO OBEY THE RELEASING DATE DECEMBER 19th.
    NOW I MUST EXPLAIN TO THE AUTHORS THAT IT WAS NOT ME WHO PUBLISHED THIS BEFORE THAT OFFICIAL DATE.
    WE SHALL INFORM ON THIS WEBSITE IN DUE TIME.
    Peter Finke

    #4741
    bartian
    Participant

    I’m sorry…?
    I really didn’t see that date. Actually I still don’t see it. In fact, I found a different publication date: “Published online at http://www.vertebrate-zoology.de on December 10, 2012”, which already passed.
    I found the link at an other forum, and thought it would be good to inform other paro-keepers.
    The link is also published at SeriouslyFish and some other sites…

    Of course I have no intention to violate anyone or anything! I’m really sorry If I accidentally did so!

    But if it shouldn’t be public why did they make it publically available on that site?

    #4742
    helene schoubye
    Keymaster

    I think we have become aware that you are quite right, that it had already been published online. But this was very surprising as it was otherwise understood that it was not to be published before on the 19th.
    I am sure Peter will write again here soon and we will find out what happened and how to go about it.
    Its a big announcement and really exciting news. But of course one is always a bit afraid of those things with authors rights and so, so it was rather confusing this online edition 🙂
    We appreciate very much that you wanted to share this exciting information with us, and when its found on the internet and online for public use, then it is of course quite all right.

    #4743
    Peter Finke
    Participant

    Dear Bartian, I apologize for using some harsh wording. The confusion that has arisen is not caused by your action but by the publishers of that journal. They originally published December 19th as release date for that issue of “Vertebrate Zoology”, and when Horst Linke sent me the article (December 9th) this was the date to be respected. It was to be read on the first page of that article on top right. It was clear to me that we have to wait until that time before we inform all friends via our Homepage.
    On December 11th I saw Martin Fischer at Würzburg, a very sucsessful breeder of “Langgam”, and I told him that I had a surprise for him; “Langgam” is history, now it’s P. phoenicurus (= the European Redstart, a very good name, I think). Of course he was rather surprised too, and we both thought that we must wait unti the 19th to publish this.
    But then the publisher decided to go online before printing the paper issue, namely at December 10th, and you found it very quickly. Since I had a pdf given by Horst I did not look again. Then I saw your note and was puzzled. I thought it was your “quickness” that was a bit too quick, but you were not. You saw it in the internet and posted the link. And there was the new date: December 10th. So, you are fully all right. Please excuse my harsh words.
    In the meantime I phoned with Horst Linke and received a mail by Ingo Schindler: There is no problem either. They were surprised by that earlier release of the online edition, too.
    You have deleted that link. This is no longer necessary. Please restore it that others may see that new first description of two very beautiful licorice gouramis.
    Peter

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