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Hi everyone,
Just wanted to say that the whole project is amazing. I currently breed mostly breed killifish but it seems like I am falling in love for Licorice Gouramis 😉 Def I am going to pick up Parosphromenus gunawani tomorrow. They are what I am always looking for. They come from extreme environments, they are endangered, they are challenging to breed and raise and they are bautiful. Def want to be part of this. I have quite extensive experience with breeding some challenging SA species and have been in the hobby since I was 7 years old so I hope to be helpful even in some forum topics from the very start.
Cheers!
Hello and welcome to the Project. We are very happy for each new member 🙂
Its good to hear that you have experience and dedication, we certainly welcome this too.
Apart from the challenges that you mention, I would add one more in the field of parosphromenus and that is the one of correct identification.
So although I gratulate you very much on your new parosphromenus Gunawani, I would be somewhat doubtful that this is indeed the case. I myself bought p. gunawani some month ago, – and they were absolutely not p.gunawani.
P. gunawani has recently been offered quite a few times in shops, and I have not yet heard of one which really was P. gunawani 🙂 ..
This is unfortunately the situation (and challenge) with these species, they are often labeled with wrong names, and we then have to figure out as best we can what are they really. Of course this is unfortunate, but it doesnt make the fish less interesting, its probably just another species, – in my case – a beautiful p. bintant type ..
So next challenge 😉 … is also photos … 🙂
It will interesting to see what the fish that you are getting are, – if they are indeed P.gunawani, in which case you will be very lucky, – and if they are not … what is it then 🙂 ..?Hi,
been on the site almost straight since I registered and studying. I am supposed to pick up my fish today that were imported as P. gunawani and should be six of them (they are not sure in the shop, there are plants in the tank and the fish are hiding). The original import was 10 fish. Of course I am scared about their condition and very curious if its really P.gunawani, I went through the pictures so hopefuly I am able to tell if they at least look pretty close like it. Will buy what they have to safe the fish from shop anyways and give them my best try. Tank is already set up, I even had plenty of pretty suitable water stable and prepared for my Laimosemion xiphidius so I used that with pH 5,5 as I dont know what scary water parameters they are capt in untill now. I will see in like 9 hours. Will drop the pH slowly more than. Of course I will try to make some pictures for you guys as soon as they settle and show up a little. I just hope they make it.
I thought mine was pretty close 🙂 … thats why I bought them, but they were not. There has be quite a lot of blue in them, not just a tiny band, – but lets see. I am sure you have also found then other threads here regarding this problem.
Getting paros home from shops is really tricking sometimes. In my shop, – nomatter where they come from, they keep them in ‘ordinary’ water as the rest of the fish, they dont bother lowering ph or anything. So I take a good time adjusting them to lower ph when they come home to me, and dont put it too low in the beginning.
With wild caught fish I always look out for odinium, – of course its probably due to the stress of moving and changing waters, but I find wild caugths to be more prone to it.I hope its not going to be that bad, its one of the best shops in the country and the owner seems to know what he is doing. Fingers crossed. I normaly never buy fish from shops, or have not done so for years, always bought straight from importers so I have quite a lot of experience with south american black water imports. Will check the water from the shop and make it work somehow. Dropping method always works fine 🙂
So I have nine fish finaly. Some were hiding in the plants. Condition looks promissing, they even said that they have mixed some softer water for them. Def they were not starving there, so far good news. Totaly no coloration showing besides the body stripes and some brown spots over the body which seems to be stress coloration. I still did not get home so will be introducing them in to the tank within like 2-3 hours. I am glad I did not have small tank and had to prepare some 30+ liters one. Did not expect so many fish, but I am glad as it always means better chances of obtaining some fish that will be able to reproduce. Wish me luck.
Congratulations with the newly acquired fish!
I hope you’ve got at least some from each gender, and indeed, that they’ll fullfill your expectations.Thank you very much :)Ihad just released them in to the tank and they immediately started to descover it.Seems like they like their new home and they are apparently hungry.It was quite visible they were feeling better and better as I was slowly mixing the water from the bag. I was told in the shop that they softened the water they were kept in, but it was still liquid dolomite. I cant wait to see how they will look tomorrow and what species they really are.
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here is the least worthless picture. Combination of bad camera and dirty glass of the tank. Sorry for that, the tank is very old and has limestone on it as I made my small tanks some time ago by cutting some old tanks from my childhood when I was breeding Tanganican cichlids and I was not able to clean it using whatever stuff. They are quite cheeky and are serching the tank for food since I woke up. Only gave them artemia so far and they are eagerly feeding on it.Good to hear that they are cheeky and well, – its not the best photo 🙂 … but I would dare say its unlikely to be p.gunawani,- just the body length is suspicious.
They look very much like my ‘p.gunawani’.Theres a lot of good info regarding p.gunawani in these threads, – perhaps you have already seen them, but I will link them here
https://www.parosphromenus-project.org/de/forum-4/3-Species/1495-really-a-p-gunawani.html
https://www.parosphromenus-project.org/de/forum-4/9-Trade/1475-p-gunawani-at-ruinemans.html
the czech importer told me that they were collected by somy hobby people from the export company that collect fish for themself and have put some of them to their company commercial trade and that he asked for location (I think that would help some, may be a lot) I need to take better picture of them, there is a male that starts to show some colors on the fins. Even if they are not gunawani, I realy like them and would like to obtain some more species soon. 🙂 Will give them a chance to settle down and we will see. Will def post the info on the location if I get some.
The fish on that bad picture are no gunawani. I bred the only certain fish of this new species whch I received from Horst’s (Linke) private import, still called “spec. Danau Rasau”. They were conspicuous, far more than most other bintan-like forms frum northern Sumatra.
It’s a well known method of the fish-trade that they take an interesting name especially of a new species to get their fish in the market. Themselves, they are unable to distinguish the Paro-forms properly. The old tactics, to call all of them “deissneri”, does not work any longer. People are better informed now and know that this name was wrong in each of the many cases. So, the newest name is the most interesting one that guarantees the fish being bought.
Traders in south east Asia sometime get huge quantities of one species from one or several catching places when the catchers go there some moths after the spawning period. One thousand is not rarely the number, sometimes more, often less. To get these “difficult” fish sold is really no an easy task. An interesting new name helps.
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