Forum

My Parospromenus

  • Teu­nis
  • Teunis's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Junior Boarder
  • Junior Boarder
More
7 years 6 months ago #2110 by Teu­nis
Replied by Teu­nis on topic My Parospromenus
Sorry, I should have made myself more clear. :blush:
There are many hardy plants that grow under var­i­ous con­di­tions. Also in nature some plants grow in acidic con­di­tions, as shown by this link . So its def­i­nitely pos­si­ble to grow plants in water whit a low pH. How­ever for most (sub)tropical aquar­i­um­plants the ideal pH is some­where between 6 and 7. below pH 6 plants usu­ally grow sig­nif­i­cantly worse. Lack of light, tan­nic acids and tan­nins make black­wa­ter also less suit­able for plants.
for exam­ple this is Microso­rum tri­dent in the planted com­mu­nity tank (pH 6.5);

the same plants are grow­ing in the 10liter tank, but those are com­ing from a tank with pH 5.0.


since C. cor­data is quite a hard to find plant here I pre­fer to keep it under the best con­di­tions I can offer. As a result it started to bloom B) :


Ste­fanie, the Pan­gio semi­cincta is like Hou­dini. I kept them in this tank until I changed the sub­strate. Their cau­dal fins where occa­sion­ally nipped by the red tail puffers so they should be moved any­way. some­how this lit­tle fel­low stayed hid­den in a com­pletely emp­tied tank, and every time I tried to catch him, he dis­ap­peared. Until I cleaned out the fil­ter last week and I found him, appar­ently he could not only get in there but also out again… :huh:

Greet­ings,

Teu­nis.

have a great day, or a good night.

Please Log in or Cre­ate an account to join the conversation.

  • Teu­nis
  • Teunis's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Junior Boarder
  • Junior Boarder
More
7 years 6 months ago #2112 by Teu­nis
Replied by Teu­nis on topic My Parospromenus
back ontopic,

I was order­ing some glass worms, and came up whit some ques­tions.

what kind of fil­ter do you use? I came across some small air dri­ven sponge fil­ters. would they be use­ful?
now I don’t use any fil­ter but change 50% of the water twice a week.

Would vine­gar eels be eaten (by fry)? I used those in the past to feed fry of Pseudo­mugil en Oryzias which stay close to the sur­face just like the eels. But I think Paro fry stays closer to the bot­tom of the tank?

Greet­ings,

Teu­nis.

have a great day, or a good night.

Please Log in or Cre­ate an account to join the conversation.

More
7 years 6 months ago 7 years 6 months ago #2113 by Svert­ing
Replied by Svert­ing on topic My Parospromenus
I don’t know if Aquael PAT­mini is availi­ble in Your coun­try, but in my opin­ion it is a good fil­ter for small aquar­ium. Highly adjustable flow rate is nice, and the fil­ter itself is very,very small. In my opin­ion using air pow­ered fil­ter is good, when You have many tanks on a shelf, since the power input will be small as opposed to elec­tric tur­bines, but the air pumps are noisy, even when pro­ducer says they should be silent.

I would pro­pose two Aquael fil­ters:

FAN MIKRO Plus — [X}
PAT MINI [X]

In Poland PAT MINI costs about 6 Euros.

8 x Parosphromenus sp. ‘blue line’ — 5 males, 3 females
Last edit: 7 years 6 months ago by Svert­ing.

Please Log in or Cre­ate an account to join the conversation.

More
7 years 6 months ago 7 years 6 months ago #2114 by parosphr
Replied by parosphr on topic My Parospromenus

Teu­nis wrote: I was order­ing some glass worms, and came up whit some questions…


Glass worms (Chaoborus or Chorethra, “weiße Mück­en­lar­ven”) are a very good food for big­ger grown and adult Paros. Fed by them, they reli­ably get fer­tile (which often could be a prob­lem, espe­cially if fed by Daph­nia).

But I should point out that two good Ger­man breed­ers dur­ing the last years had severe prob­lems with glass­worms from the trade. One of them lost his com­plete stocks of more than ten species of Paros and many grow­ing off­spring. Among them were extremely valu­able fish that he had caught him­self at the orig­i­nal sites, so surely been deter­mined as the species known from there. The other friend lost the major­ity of his whole stock and off­spring. There are indi­ca­tions that much more peo­ple made that expe­ri­ence but up to the present day do not real­ize what hap­pens, what the cause has been.

And what was the cause of that losses? Quite clearly and with­out any doubt a con­t­a­m­i­na­tion of the com­mer­cially har­vested and stored glass­worms; in both cases there was a def­i­nite proof of this. One should espe­cially be warned against those small plas­tic envelopes which are sold in thou­sands with mostly an unclear ori­gin. The glass­worms inside obvi­ously are treated by a heavy poi­son to make them more sta­bile in that small con­tain­ers. Often some die and to pre­vent the oth­ers from being infected those poi­sons are used. Often this works well, as it seems, but there can be most cat­a­strophic results for the fish fed by them. At any rate if you can­not catch your glass­worms your­self from the next fish-​free pool (what is best) you should keep them for quite a time in a big con­tainer with much new water; best is to net them and give them with­out old pol­luted water into it.

Peter Finke

Many kind regards Helene, web­mas­ter at P-​P
Last edit: 7 years 6 months ago by parosphr.

Please Log in or Cre­ate an account to join the conversation.

More
7 years 6 months ago #2117 by Ste­fanie
Replied by Ste­fanie on topic My Parospromenus

parosphr wrote: At any rate if you can­not catch your glass­worms your­self from the next fish-​free pool (what is best) you should keep them for quite a time in a big con­tainer with much new water; best is to net them and give them with­out old pol­luted water into it.


Hello, Peter,

yes, that is com­pletely right: I would rec­om­mend this for every kind of life food bought from the trade.
In win­ter I also have to buy the glass worms — and I pour them as soon as pos­si­ble after buy­ing out of their plas­tic bags, into a sieve, which I then hang into a pot with clear, fresh water. You can say — I wash them first, to rinse off every trace of the fluid in which they are sold. After that I wash the whole lot of lar­vae out of the sieve into — again — new clear, fresh water, put it all in a glass and store it in the fridge. You can feed the glass worms now and then with freshly hatched artemia.
Before feed­ing them to my fish I again pour them into a sieve and rinse them. I put noth­ing of the water I store them in into my tanks (although this is fresh water, which I fill up reg­u­larly).

I do this wash­ing with every kind of life food I have to buy — in Artemia it is addi­tion­ally nec­es­sary because of the salt water they are sold in.

Until now I have made no bad expe­ri­ences with feed­ing these glass worms to all of my fish — not only paros. But I am always afraid — I heard about this desaster you spoke about, too.

Please Log in or Cre­ate an account to join the conversation.

  • Teu­nis
  • Teunis's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Junior Boarder
  • Junior Boarder
More
7 years 6 months ago #2118 by Teu­nis
Replied by Teu­nis on topic My Parospromenus
Hello Peter and Ste­fanie,

The glass worm are sold in a wet news­pa­per, its quite a large quan­tity (100grams of worms), so I throw them in a bucket rain­wa­ter and keep them out­side. I order them from a kil­li­fish breeder who made a small busi­ness out of sell­ing fish, eggs and supplies.I could ask him about the ori­gin, but so far I never had prob­lems whit those.

I never use the nor­mal plas­tic bags of life food, and read­ing all this makes me sure to keep it that way.
Most time of the year I can catch enough food whit all the ditches in the area. some­how I never catch a lot of glass worms despite mas­sive amounts of Daph­nia and Cyclops.

@ Sverting,thnx! They look nice indeed, I’ll see if I can find them.

Greet­ings,

Teu­nis.

have a great day, or a good night.

Please Log in or Cre­ate an account to join the conversation.

Mod­er­a­tors: helene
Time to cre­ate page: 0.133 seconds
X

Right Click is Disabled

Please respect our image usage rights and do not copy the images found on this web­site with­out prior per­mis­sion. Thank You — The Parosphromenus Project Staff