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7 years 2 weeks ago #1250 by Sis­si­mor
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I have a heav­ily plantet 120-​liter, with paros, ruby-​tetra, ottos and corys. The corys lays eggs from time to time, and this evening they were hatch­ing.

One of the linkei females was ready, and snatched the wig­glers as they came out of the egg.
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7 years 2 weeks ago #1251 by Peter Finke
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I am some­what annoyed by this dis­cus­sions how to “keep” the Paros. There are hun­dreds if not more than a thou­sand very dif­fer­ent and beau­ti­ful orna­men­tal fish, many of them read­ily avail­able in the pet trade, that are not threat­ened at all. Many of them are con­stantly bred by pri­vate or com­mer­cial breed­ers, oth­ers are caught annu­ally in great num­bers in the wild with­out harm­ing the stocks at all.

I think it com­pletely wrong to use organ­isms, plants or anmals, which are threat­ened to extinc­tion in all species mainly by the log­ging of the rain­forests for orna­men­tal pur­poses in com­mu­nity tanks only. Licorice gouramis are. That the off­spring of some of them is caught each year for com­mer­cial pur­poses is accept­able as long as it har­vestes a num­ber only which does not add to the threat of the pop­u­la­tions. So we can try to breed them, enlarge the stock in our aquaria and try to become inde­pen­dent from the con­sumer men­tal­ity of the hobby. There­fore, heav­ily threat­ened organ­isms are noth­ing suited for tanks the only pur­pose of which is sim­ply “keep­ing” them, for this means to con­sume them. I am not against the usual con­sumer men­tal­ity of 95% of the nor­mal aquar­ists as long as it is to be sat­is­fied from the huge stock of non-​threatened fish. But I plea that all friends of the licorice gouramis should first sin­cerely try to breed and enlarge their stock in tanks suited for that pur­pose. If they know how to do that and have enough young, they may “keep” some of them in large tanks or even com­mu­nity tanks. This may be the case with the friend who wrote the last post­ing (although this com­mu­nity with corys, ottos and ruby tetras is cer­tainly not a fully ade­quate envi­ron­ment for fish from Asian black­wa­ter habi­tats …).

At any rate I hope so.

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7 years 2 weeks ago #1254 by Sis­si­mor
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The water­pa­ra­me­ters are right fore the papos, and I have a pair in a sep­a­rate tank I’m try­ing to bread. :unsure: (Have suc­sess­fully bred sp. sen­tang)…

I didn’t whrite this to pro­voke any­body, just to show how smart the paros are… :(

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7 years 2 weeks ago #1255 by bart­ian
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How is your water then?
Since paros live in extremely acidic water they are adapted to liv­ing in such an envi­ron­ment. This means they got some fea­tures, in exchange for which they lost some other. One of those lost fea­tures is the abil­ity of thriv­ing in hard and/​or basic water.

Good to hear you are breed­ing them too. P. linkei appears to breed rel­a­tively easy.

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7 years 2 weeks ago 7 years 2 weeks ago #1256 by Sis­si­mor
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Got lots of leafs at the bot­tom, and the water is yel­low. Turf under the sand.

The water tend to be soft and acidic in Nor­way…

I seri­ously have to say i regret post­ing this, and I don’t know if you ever hear from me again. Have some paros bought as Deiss­neri I would like to have the cor­rect id for, but I don’t know if I got the guts to post here again…
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7 years 2 weeks ago 7 years 2 weeks ago #1257 by helene
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I am very sorry to hear that, — and hope of course that you will indeed stay on.

It is to me a com­pli­cated ques­tion and although I do under­stand and share the thoughts writ­ten above by Peter, I do not see things com­pletely the same way. Under­stand­ing the sit­u­a­tion regard­ing Parosphromenus and the threa­thened sta­tus is of course very impor­tant, — and I am sure all who have got a deeper inter­est in these fish are aware of this.
I am sure that is how you came to find your way to this home­page in the first place. :)

And we all try to breed for sure. But we still have fish that are either sur­plus, or bought in shops with all same sex or some­thing, — and f.inst. in Den­mark some­times in the shops we even get Parosphromenus which are breed in cap­tiv­ity and sold. This is a fact.
And I think that we need to also dis­cuss how to best keep these fish. For me is it also a mat­ter of lov­ing these tiny fishes. I will breed them if pos­si­ble, but I will also ‘keep’ those that I have then bred in the best pos­si­ble setup.
Per­haps you could think of other com­pan­ions than coryes :) I agree to that, but I am sure you might have been aware of that too. Some­times things are just not pos­si­ble in the ideal way.
For myself I have learned over the years, that one way I thought was right, now seems less right, — I find actu­ally that my paros thrive in con­di­tions that I have pre­vi­ously not thought would be good, — such as f.example a lit­tle bit of cur­rent seems to do them good, as well as small com­pan­ion fish.

Of course we should keep focus on the impor­tant things, but I per­son­ally also hope that we can con­tinue to learn from dif­fer­ent ques­tions and dis­cus­sions and be open to this.
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