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P. ornat­i­cauda avail­able at Aquanom in Northeim!

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2 years 11 months ago #6079 by chrisne84
Aquanom (ex-​Aquafish) in Northeim got around 100 fishes in very good con­di­tion. As I wrote some time ago, I had inten­sive con­ver­sa­tion by mail with the owner. I told a lot about PP and he said he will try to get a small num­ber of orna.

On Fri­day I got the mes­sage. He is inter­ested to give most of the fish to PP!
We should try to take all fish and splitt up in PP. As we all know we need orna for the PP, because it’s almost lost in PP.
A skilled friend and me will take around 68 pairs.

Please con­tact him as fast as pos­si­ble.

Best regards
Chris

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2 years 11 months ago #6080 by helene
Hello Chris
Per­son­ally I would like very much to find ornat­i­cauda, but for me it is too far away. I think it is not easy to orga­nize such a thing as you men­tion, — it needs to be peo­ple who live close by, and would like to take many of these fish. I am not sure you will reach enough peo­ple here. It will not be so easy I think to dis­trib­ute so many fish to P-​P mem­bers.
Per­haps if any­one was com­ing to the meet­ing in Ham­burg there might be a way to bring some there, but I dont know if you plan to.
It is true enough as you say, that at this moment we do not have many ornat­i­cauda, but they are not that rare in trade. I know from a friend of mine who works in a shop in Copen­hagen, that ornat­i­cauda is not sel­dom on their lists.
But also, ornat­i­cauda is really tricky and dif­fi­cult, and even if many mem­bers would take ornat­i­cauda, for many it would likely be only for a short time after which they may not be able to hold on to this par­tic­u­lar species.
What we need is for some­one with a lot of expe­ri­ence and skills to try to main­tain the species for longer peri­ods of time.
Any­way, I am not sure what to do in this sit­u­a­tion, but it is good that you told us. We will have to see how many might react to it, maybe peo­ple liv­ing in Ger­many nearby.

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2 years 11 months ago #6081 by chrisne84
Hello Helene,

Aquanom is send­ing fish by GO. It’s work­ing well. I tried by myself a few times with rar species like Paros and Sp. vail­lanti. Pack­ing and start­ing in afternoon/​evening, receiv­ing the next morn­ing. For me that would be the eas­i­est way to splitt them to the peo­ple.
Mov­ing the fish another time is nec­es­sary in every case of trans­porta­tion.

I hope a lot of mem­bers will use the chance to get them.

Chris

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2 years 11 months ago 2 years 11 months ago #6082 by Peter Finke
Helene is fully right. Every year when the breed­ing sea­son in sun­da­land has ended, young Paros of some of the main catch­ing grounds are traded by some cen­tral sup­pli­ers to Europe and the world. P. ornat­i­cauda is highly longed for and presently avail­able in some shops in Ger­many and in other coun­tries. The prob­lem for the P-​P is not avail­abil­ity but breed­ing and sus­tain­abil­ity. Until today con­cern­ing this species, this has not changed our effi­ciency in that. You can be sure that our mem­bers with really breed­ing expe­ri­ence will try to solve the puz­zle. You are invited to join them.

By the way, with any species we pre­fer to strengthen the stocks with approved local­ity. In this species there is a rather big realm of dis­tri­b­u­tion that may mean dif­fer­ent local vari­ants, that may cause those prob­lems. At present, an Asian mem­ber of the project is research­ing in Kali­man­tan Ten­gah and prob­a­bly will be able to tell us more in Ham­burg on that problem.You are invited to join us there, too.

There­fore, post­ings as yours do not solve the prob­lems; they enhance the usual men­tal­ity of want-​to-​have and keeping-​to-​death which marr the usual aquar­is­tics. P-​P is dif­fer­ent.

I do not want to offend you, I want to make you con­scious of the problems.
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2 years 11 months ago #6083 by Ben­nie
First of all, thank you, Chris, for shar­ing this.

If it is as Chris says there is no problem.The owner is will­ing to give the fishes to our project and every­one inter­ested might con­tact him and get some fishes via GO. So I will con­tact him and take a few pairs. If I am right he will be happy for every pair in good hands and if not he might just not send the fishes indi­vid­u­ally and needs to sell them locally. He can decide.

Peter and Helene are right, but as the fishes are here every­one inter­ested should rush and try to breed them ;)

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2 years 11 months ago #6084 by emha
Ben­nie is right, in my oppin­ion. We have to thank Chris for his engage­ment (lit­tle deng­lish). It‘s not uneth­i­cal to keep paros, even not ornat­i­cauda from trade. If we can get them.

Best wishes, Martin

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