Thankyou for your replies.
Helene. The fish came from 2 different shops. I saw the Phoenicurus advertised by a shop on an aquarist sales site.
They had previously had some other Paro species which I managed to buy some of, and I presume the got them because the others had sold well. But I dont think there was any interest from the shop just purely financial. I know they came from Singapore, but they didn’t know, or wouldn’t say who were the exporters.
The Ornaticauda were ordered specially for us by a shop that imports regularly from Ruinemans, after their availability was posted here.
Peter. Please don’t feel like you have to defend the cautious nature of the census. I completely agree with it.
On my reply to the census, I noted that the fish were imported as and looked like Phoenicurus. However because there was not a positive id unlike the fish in Germany, I didn’t want them to be included with them and possibly cause future confusion.
I shall still include these fish in future census as Phoenicurus of undetermined commercial import, so as to differentiate between these and the Aquarium Dietzenbach fish.