Czech importers/distributors

[Vlad]

I found few importers/distributors in Czech Republic online and was wondering is there anyone who has experience with paros from Czech?

General opinion in fish scene here (Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Baltic States) is that Czech massacre the fish and not to order under any condition no matter how good the offer is.

Anyone with any experience?

[helene schoubye]

I am not sure, – but I think that quite often fish here in Denmark is importet from Tjeckoslovakia, – even paroes sometimes, I think. That is import for smaller generel petshops with no speciality in tropical fishes, – but just the ordinary fish-types. They often import from Tjeckoslovakia.
But I cannot say anything regarding whether they are good or not, – but I get the feeling that there is maybe quite a big ‘industri’ of breeding for commercial purposes. This probably does mean that the quality sometimes can be less than optimal, but there might be good ones in between.

[Marcin Chyla]

Hello dezz, If You searching for some paros or another rare fish, try contact with Artur from Akwapasja.pl . I have all my fish from him and I really recommend him.

[Vlad]

Hi,

I was planning to conatact you but could find direct contact so…
Anyhoo I alredy did contact with arthur and waiting for his reply on the subject.

I got mine from Wroclaw (Damian Brandys/Sepherek) he told me he imports directly from Asia. Unfortunately deliveries arrive every few months.

My experience so far is quite ok.
Fish look healthy and mortality rate is quite low.

He has large number of P. anjuganansis right now – keeping them in quarantine now for two weeks and so far so good.

I think the price is really really attractive 🙂 in comparison to German..

[Marcin Chyla]

Hi, I have 7 P.sp.bintan from Damian and they are doing very well 🙂 I bought from Artur mostly Satanoperca and Biotodoma species but I also had my first paros (P. sumatranus) from him. My e-mail is martinchyla@wp.pl – Write anytime You want 🙂 I’m very curious how your’s tank look like… Greetings!

[Peter Finke]

I just returned from the Czech republic and completely agree with Helene’s opinion. The Chechs are exzellent breeders of “difficult” species. The opinion cited “that they massacre those fish” is definitely nonsense. There are stupid or greedy people everywhere, but many Chechs have rightly a good name in the Fish breeding business.

[Vlad]

Hi, I have 7 P.sp.bintan from Damian

I understand those are the fish from your thread of deissner that came to be some kind of bintan and you got them around april-may?
I’m asking because I’m pretty sure that mine are from the same batch and i can now order deissner as those apparently are bintan.
Arthur is ordering deissner soon (he assured me those are 99% deissner and not any other kind) and in this case I will be verrry interested.

The Chechs are exzellent breeders

I was referring to the imports/distribution in Czech Rep. I spoke with few local importer and in general they prefer to order fish that are almost twice the price from Germany.
It has something to do with the questionable disinfection techniques of fish that leaves them infertile or results in weak disfigured fry

[Peter Finke]

Dezz, I suggest to you a bet: those fish will be no deissneri.
If they are, I will congratulate you very loudly, and some people will drive to
Poland.
If they are not, nothing has changed as it is and was.
Let’s wait and see.

[Marcin Chyla]

Yes, they are those “P. deissneri”. About this “truth” P deissneri – I also fully doubt in that even ‘local’ asian importers know what species of Parosphromenus they have. But more important is knowledge about locality from those fish come. I asked Damian about locality of my fish but he told me that he have no answer on his e-mail to this asian importers…:( So, I have beautiful fish but I have no idea from what region they are…

[Peter Finke]

The Asian exporters (not importers) mostly know very well the localities, because they know the local catchers and see who delivers and who doesn’t. But they are quiet about this; it’s a business secret. There could be a competitor trying to seek an easy way to find out about productive places. Generally, the species are orderly defined, with the exception of “deissneri”: The redefinition of this species by Kottelat and Ng is widely not understood, so most Parosphromenus of the bintan-type run still under that wrong name. And only very seldom some people catch on Bangka island (the only place of the real deissneri’s ocurrence. There is not much else to be caught, so it’s economically worthless). As localities are concerned, only the most general origins are known and given (“Kalimantan”, “West-Malaysa”, “Sumatra”), often less. The precise differentiation of localities which we are interested in because it could be of evolutionary meaning, is nothing which matters there.
When the fish arrive in Europe or America, the importers and wholesalers take the names written on the parcels, and since more precise localities (“where the fish have really been caught”) are not given this remains a secret. For most aquarium fish, no one is interested in such matters. This is different with us strange girls and guys, the friedns of the licorice gouramis. Therefore, sometimes, a local pet shop owner telephones with the wholesaler on this issue, but when the place is unknown to the wholesaler (which is mostly the case) that questions remains unanswered. Only in a very few cases one could get a little more information.
The conclusion is: Those populations and lines derived from fish with a clearly given origin are especially valuable, although the fish are not more beautiful than others. Mostly a simple equation is true: Fish from the trade are without locality, and fish with locality are not from trade-origin but offspring of inividuals that were self-caught by one of the enthusiasts of the Parosphromenus-project.

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