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September 3, 2014 at 9:54 pm #7133
Dorothee Jöllenbeck-Pfeffel
Participantconcerning fry and vacation : if I should have fry before vacation and couldn’t avoid to go
I would take them to a babysitter or my aquaristic shop with fish caring service …
September 3, 2014 at 10:56 pm #7134David Luke
Participant[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYSxnOaZ5u4[/video]
One live food I have been using are tropical springtails – Collembola species.
A big advantage is that they will happily live for days on top of your floating plants allowing your Paros to hunt for them until they are consumed.
Starter cultures are available from many dart frog live food suppliers online.September 3, 2014 at 11:15 pm #7135Dorothee Jöllenbeck-Pfeffel
ParticipantHallo DTL,
thanks, good idea and an interesting film!
But as far as I have heard and read do Paros dislike to use the water surface for finding food …Perhaps they would ignore food living at the water surface …
September 3, 2014 at 11:18 pm #7136David Luke
ParticipantAll I can say is that I have 5 tanks of Paros and they all actively hunt and eat the springtails from the surface in the same manner as the fish in the video.
September 3, 2014 at 11:55 pm #7137Dorothee Jöllenbeck-Pfeffel
ParticipantO.K. I have just found “Folsomia candida” as springtails .. this is not the same, isn´t it?
Now I have found Collembola …
September 4, 2014 at 12:02 am #7138David Luke
ParticipantHi, I made a short video to show my Paros feeding
[video]http://https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y2OYQVsaPVA&feature=youtu.be[/video]I bought my starter cultures from here
http://www.dartfrog.co.uk/livefoods.htmlSeptember 4, 2014 at 12:02 am #7139Pavel Chaloupka
Keymaster[quote=”7 Zwerge” post=3811]Hallo DTL,
But as far as I have heard and read do Paros dislike to use the water surface for finding food …Perhaps they would ignore food living at the water surface …[/quote]
My Paros hunt actively from the surface too, you can see they are kind of carefull and usually aproach the surface from some hiding place and go quickly down but if they see anything tasty on the surface, they go straight for it.
September 4, 2014 at 12:05 am #7140Pavel Chaloupka
KeymasterWow but these guys on the video are feeding like guppies
Not worried about anything. My are much more careful and never stay close to the surface for a long time, just grab a mouthfull and quickly hide again.
September 4, 2014 at 12:05 am #7141Dorothee Jöllenbeck-Pfeffel
ParticipantOk! Convinced!
I will try!(if nobody stops me here
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September 4, 2014 at 1:44 pm #7142Dorothee Jöllenbeck-Pfeffel
ParticipantI have found, that one of my shops where I order from time to time has folsomia candida (that’s the species we find in our flower buckets ;-), also a species of collembola .
I have also found some new shops with tropical collembola ….
What would you do?
September 4, 2014 at 2:08 pm #7143Pavel Chaloupka
KeymasterFolsomia candida is great becouse it is very easy to cultivate. This species has been cultivated for decades so they are well adjusted. Feeding with inactivated sprayed yeasts is great option. I would check both and choose depending on cultivation conditions that fit my needs.
September 4, 2014 at 3:48 pm #7144David Luke
ParticipantI like the idea of the tropical species because they need a minimum temperature of 24 degrees C to survive and propagate.
As such, they are much less likely to become an infestation problem in the home.
I maintain my colonies inside a heated garden propagator to achieve the required environment.September 4, 2014 at 11:33 pm #7145Peter Finke
ParticipantI am not convinced at all. Even in this video one can see that Paros don’t usually take food from the surface, they don’t like it. In nature, they do it very occasionally only. But if the aquarist offers them nothing else, they are forced to behave like this.
One should feed them the most natural food as possible. I am not against an occasional surface item, but as a main food it’s wrong. I doubt that they get fertile this way. This is always a good test. Feeding Paros by collembola: This is typical aquarist’ non-biological thinking.
As is the water garden to be seen here. It’s nearly impossible to maintain a stable low pH and a mineral content near zero in such a horticultural milieu.
September 5, 2014 at 12:59 am #7146David Luke
ParticipantI note your comments, however I would respond as follows:
The Paros in the video had only previously been fed with Artemia, and all my fish are fed on a diet of varied live food every day, they are not forced into eating anything. With regards to the resultant condition of my fish, they have already spawned successfully in the tank shown?
Regarding my aquarium layout, all my tanks were laid out in line with the guidelines set out in the Parosphromenus Project website, see your pictures below, so I’m a little surprised at your comments. My Ph holds stable at 4.5 – 5.
I believe the important thing is to provide our Paros with an environment and conditions that will allow us to sustain the species. We should not close our mind to any ideas which support that ideal.
https://www.parosphromenus-project.org/images/stories/helenespictures/035a.jpg
https://www.parosphromenus-project.org/images/stories/PeterFinke/cimg3849.jpgSeptember 5, 2014 at 9:52 am #7147Peter Finke
ParticipantOK, I have been too harsh with my comments, I see this. But, please note
-that your mailing did not contain the information that this is not the ordinary, not to say normal food, but an occasionally given additional one; I think this information (which you gave us now) is an important addition;
– that the picture of one of my tanks does not show such a “horticultural milieu” (my words) but a lot of open space usable for the fish for displaying. As I saw in Western Malaysia myself Paros in nature live in thickets of riparian grasses and wood, but need and use little spaces within for their courtship behaviour;
– that there are certainly several different methods for breeding these fish, between with quite many plants and without any plants, but I should not be an advocate for “any ideas” that lead towards that goal. There are better ones and lesser good ones, and there is a guide-line: the milieu conditions they find in unspoiled nature. And feeding on collemboles is not within this range, although they occasionally feed on an item which has fallen on the surface, too.
But you are right in correcting me. If you accept this correction of mine, we can go on. -
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