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May 18, 2014 at 3:43 pm #6544Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipant
:woohoo:
After 6 years of aquaristic seems I have now my first dragon fly larva(s)!!!!
Please look at the fotos! They are as large as my caridina simoni, which I hoped to be numerous when my new Paros will move in in four weeks …What shall I do?????
I couldn’t catch them yet. Now I will try a meat trap (works good with Planaria). Then to suck/vakuum with the water tube….
shortly I ve had hope it would just be a larve of mayfly, but I saw it confronting a simoni, and that didn’t look nice…
I hope you can help me!
May 18, 2014 at 5:59 pm #6546Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipant👿 :whistle: Hi Hooo
I´ve got two of them: one with the water tube and the other because it tried to hide in a spawn gown B) and again new fotos:
First I though it would be just one, then, on the first foto I saw it was two of them. Funny, they look similar, but are coloured different!
May 18, 2014 at 7:24 pm #6547Davy GrenouilletParticipantHi,
dragon fly larvea eat little fish!
May 18, 2014 at 7:37 pm #6548Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantYes I know 😉 That is the only thing I know about
them!May 18, 2014 at 8:35 pm #6549helene schoubyeKeymasterscary stuff :woohoo: :woohoo:
Did you get it in with some live food ? I am very cautious at this time, because they are all over in the small ponds in nature.
And I guess they are small too, so you can overlook it when feeding with say black mosquito larvae…
I really dont know how you can make sure they are out of the tank, but the meat trap sounds like a try worthMay 18, 2014 at 9:59 pm #6551Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantHallo Helene,
I must have got them with my new plants or with the moor root (Moorkienwurzel) in my new Paro tank, still just inhabitated by Caridina simoni.
And here I still don’t feed live food, just from time to time some shrimp granules. So I will in future not only look how many shrimps come to eat, but also if there is left one of the small dragons …May 18, 2014 at 10:14 pm #6553helene schoubyeKeymasteris the moor root one you bought ? or collected yourself ?
May 18, 2014 at 10:23 pm #6554Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantI bought it. And its from a german shop and comes from a german moor. They put it in a small river an send it wet.
But It could have been also from new plant, the plants are very good, but last time, some years ago I got them with bubble snails 😉
May 19, 2014 at 1:14 pm #6565Peter FinkeParticipantThis is a larvae of one of our big dragonflies, presumably an Aeshna spec. It will kill even adult newts and fish of more than ten centimeters.
Get it out! They are not to be compared with those peaceful shrimps!May 19, 2014 at 1:31 pm #6567Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantI got out now already 6 of them, I hang on about the tank every free time with a magnifying glass ..
The good news is that they can easily be caught with a water hose (Wasserschlauch, Wasserwechselschlauch)…
And I think they are new born, because they are still not bigger than my shrimps …
Oh oh ….
I hope I manage to find them out within the next two weeks …
There will be left not so much caridina simoni, I fear …But I see no other way – I need the plants and the root, I guess, if I throw them away and the tank, I have nothing left to let the Paros feel comfortable and if I by them new, the same play could start again …
May 21, 2014 at 8:29 am #6575Stefanie RickParticipant[quote=”7 Zwerge” post=3241]
The good news is that they can easily be caught with a water hose (Wasserschlauch, Wasserwechselschlauch)…
[/quote]They can even be easily caught with a net ………
May 21, 2014 at 8:42 am #6576Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantHi, Stefanie,
With net I don’t manage …
But I’ve already caught 10 of them, means every larve I ve seen.Now I’m recherching if they really are German, or if they are tropic.
I fear, they already didn’t left many of my new Caridina simoni …I’ve contacted an expert and I will send him two of the larves.
May 23, 2014 at 10:23 am #6581Marcin ChylaParticipantHello, yesterday I was catching daphnia and cyclops in small pound – I also caught this king of larvae (dragonfly ) and it was app. 6-7 cm !!! It was really BIG and I can belive that killing 10 cm fish will be no problem for them…
I hope You will remove them all!May 23, 2014 at 11:55 am #6582Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantHallo Martin!
Since two days I´ve found no more. I sent the last one to a dragonfly specialist from the nature museum Wiesbaden.
He will try to get it grown up to tell, if its the first german/middleeuropean Larve, he got for his project since some years ;-).
Before I will get my Paros, I will empty the tank and look if I´ll find any dragonfly larve any more.
But there are still left caridina simoni, one having eggs, I saw yesterday, so that will be also a sign, that the enemies have gone out…
May 29, 2014 at 8:52 pm #6611Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantHallo!
Today I´ve found another one … Its nr. 10. I will send it away on monday. It is now in a separated tank and get s some black mosquito larves to eat, no caridina simoni 🙁 .
I´ve been wondering why they survive in my future paro tank with black water – but there are two species of dragonflies in Germany which lives beside black water … Torf Mosaikjungfer ,Aeshna juncea´
and Hochmoor Mosaikjungfer ´Aeshna subarctica´ …. -
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