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Davy, have you seen the male eating the eggs? Or do you presume only the cause being the eating male? Mind, that it sometimes looks like eating, whereas it is only caring for the clutch.
Anyway, the clutch disappears again and again. I should recommend to you to take either the adult fish out or the cave with the eggs. The latter would make it necessary to put it in an extra vessel with exactly the same water (!) and to use funghicides and additionally pick out bad eggs every day several times. The better method is to take the adult fish out, Here, again it could become necessary for you to replace the caring father by own activities.
But the most important aim is to bring at least some eggs to development. Possibly, you have to look in the latest census who still has some P. phoenicurus besides yourself and try to get some additional individuals for exchanging them.
Hello Peter,
Tks for your help!
I presume that the male eat the eggs. I don’t saw it but the eggs disappear in the nest and only the male keep them.
I have a breeding box to put the clutch in the adult fish tank but can I put the clutch in a little jar outside the tank with the water tank? If yes, need to change water in the jar?
What funghicides to use?
I’ll contact Hans Schellein to see if he has phoenicurus for sell.
I believe that the male eats only eggs in fact! It nourished not beside that! Every week he eats his eggs for the week to come…
Next clutch I take the eggs and I isolate them with a little leave of catappa in a little jar with parents tank water.
My female loves Mosquitos larvae!
All Paros love mosquito larvae, I breed mosquito larvae in the garden and Fütter my breeding pairs thus, brings humor and lots of eggs.
Yes try the eggs artificially hatch, but you do not do so many hopes. I sometimes can hatch individual larvae. The Paro men make it better:-)Yes, I know Bernd for the eggs but I want to see if they are fertilised or not.
And I want understand why the male eat them…
Just saw that you use ketapang leaves. Most of the Terminalia catappa leaves I have seen offered so far, are almost green dried, not really worth much. If you want the real deal stuff, order here:
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?waterc&1408192802
you get 50 huge, premium quality leaves(naturaly fallen, well fermented leaves) for 13.50 bucks including shipment. This is what they really use in Asia.Good news, Hans will send me another male next week. I hope he will be better father with the clutch. I don’t try to isolate the eggs, no possibility now.
My actual male will go by a CIL french friend.
The quality of the water is the main problem if you try to hatch eggs without the father.
In nature, Paros live in running water. Additionally, the father makes a soft water-change-effect by his fins. This all is missing in a jar. There will be great problems of funghus and bacteria if you do not change the water. Mostly, this is not successful without picking out bad eggs in a daily turn und using funghicids and frequent (= daily) water changes.
Tks Peter,
I’ll change water in the jar every days with parents tank water.
I have a big serringue to make it.The eggs being yellow does not have to necessarilly mean that they are doomed already. A lot of different dyes are capable to penetrate the chorion and stain the eggs to some extend, it is only that unfertilized eggs will get stained much more. So there is still hope. If you use any type of organic dye like acriflavine or other dyes from that group, methylene blue and such stuff, it will always stain the eggs.
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