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Hello,
Some time ago I had signed here . But by circumstances I quit the aquarium hobby. Now I’m back and I am in possession of 3 P. nagyi . They were very young and small, and in the beginning I thought I had two women and one man . Meanwhile, it is clear that there are two men. They sit together in a 40 gallon aquarium , otherwise no other fish. Everithing went good. Aquarium ph: 5.5 Kh 1 Gh 1
Sinds a vieuw weeks one of the two men has a wedding color with beautiful big eyes, the other constantly rages chase . Sometimes he looks almost black, I think he’s aggressive. The woman shows her preference for the underdog other man , strange.
What can I do? Another woman had to put or get a man out of the aquarium ? And what man?Sorry for the translation, I´m normaly speak dutch.
Greats…
Unfortunately, I do not now how to post pictures.
Hello Chris.
I have some experience with nagyi, – and I think what happens is that all of the fish are just maturing.
When the male is getting mature, and ready to find a female, – it is natural for him to turn more dark and ‘dress up’ as you call it. It is also natural for him to chase the female, sometimes it may appear ‘agressive’ but in this way it will help the female to also mature and become ready to produce eggs. With nagyi I find this proces very fasinating and not too hard, – the males are often very eager to inspire the female, but doesnt get really ‘rough’. And the proces is natural, I am sure the female prefers the stronger male, but of course she will try to run away a little.The less mature male, – is likely to remain less dominant as long as there another stronger male present. If the tank is big enough its not a problem, – in smaller tanks it also happens sometimes, and you can find a less dominant male that spends his whole life in the back of tank and you think he must have died, – but he is still there, he just hides very good. The dominant male of course will also show his ‘aggression’, – you would then notice a more dark/greyish colour. But I would not worry about any of the fish being hurt, paros are not agressive like that, (even they look like it :)) ..
If you were to take one of the males out, I would definitely take the less mature male. I think it may be that the female is not yet mature enough to produce eggs, – so she avoids it. But being ‘pushed’ a little will make her mature quicker.🙂 .. well, well … long story, hope you understand my fish-logic
Hélène,
Thank you for the explanation…and it gives me a great pleasure. Now I understand the behavior of my paro´s completly. I think I want to wait provisionally any time and will keep the less mature male in the tank. He can hide himself in one of the four caves if necessary.
It is indeed very fascinating to see it.
May I ask you som other question? Now I feed them twice a day. Is that to mutch? The tempature is 22°… Does it be more for breading?Thanks and kind regards
Chris
The temperature is fine, – theres no need to do more about that.
Regarding feeding, in my understanding two times is far too much.
Paros are really fish that are very hardy when it comes to food. In their natural habitat food can be very little in periods, so they can survive (and does often in nature) with very low supply of food.
I feed mine once a day, – but many I think feed every second day. In some ways this could even be more healthy.
Unless of course there are fry in the tank, these needs more food.Paros are not used to so much food, and it may be even unhealthy to over-feed with two times a day. Certainly is not their natural way of eating.
Hello,
Now we are a large month later… the situation at this moment:
Short after my last previous post I moved the couple ( the female and the more matured male) into an 18 liter tank. Since then, I have the impression that they does not like it. The male never showed his color like befor. Offcause now he has no rival.
What goes wrong?
– Maybe the tank is to high but not wide enough? He is 25/25/30 high. Is he to short?
– The water? use rainwater and peat, every 5 days 2 liter chance, Ph 5 Kh 0-1 Gh 0-1
– Food: live food ciclops, microworms, artemia. At the moment no mosquito larvaes because the weather here is bad. Here in this regio I can not find grindal worms or Moina.
Pfff…. I hope you understand the situation and sorry for all the mistakes I write.I need some help, thanks…. 🙂
The explanation given by Helene is the most probable one: The fish are still too young and the female is not ready for laying eggs. If they do not display and the male has no interest in the female by not showing his courtship dance, they are not adult.
The factors you mention – tank, water, food – are quite OK. The new tank is not too wide or too high. Perhaps you will get some mosquito larvae in time, best food for getting the females ripe. I guess that in your old tank you used the same water, so I shall not bother with other parameters which you did not control.
But why did you change the tank at all? There was no necessity for doing so. Helene did not suggest that you should do that. She said rightly “if you were to take one male out”: but there was no reason for doing this. The tank was big enough for a surplus male to hide if necessary. But you did not write of courtship, only of interest of the female for the less dominant male. So I should replace the pair to its former situation and see if the dominant male shows the darker colours again. If it does, this may be induced by the second male more than by the female.
Then you have to wait. Before one of the males selects a cave and tries to get the female in, your fish are too young. Before there is any serious courtship, even spawning in a cave and the male guarding eggs and larvae, there is no need to split the trio. Even then ther maybe no need to do so, because the sub-male has enough room to hide.Sometimes it’s really difficult to get the female ripe for egg-laying. Therefore be patient and wait. And let the animals choose their partners themselves.
Hallo,
Sorry for the late responce…
Why I change the tank?? The most special reasen is the many water chances. The tank stands on de first flour and I have to take many steps every time to chance the water. Its more easy to chance 2 liters than a bucket of 10 l. water every 5 days.
I am going to think about it….The weather here is still bad… 🙁
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