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Hello, yesterday I have got 7 pcs. of ” P.deissneri” I quickly got some photos ( sorry for quality). I give them little black mosquito larvae and they are doing great since now and males show their colors. But are they a P. deissneri? I know that they are young and not full colored but any ideas?
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Hi, I know that the picture are not good. I will wait few days until they full acclimate, maybe then, they will show more colors and I will try to do some good photos of them ( it is not easy – You probably know that already :)) I also have doubs about them… They were cheap ( They price was about 1.5 Eur/pcs ) and I think that they are the rest of all catching fishes and they are few species mixed 🙁
Within those 7 fishes I see few with rather slim and long bodies and few with high bodies) I don’t know it is becouse of bad food in the shop? or they are a remnants after fishing and mixed 🙁 We will see after few weeks – I will doing pictures regularly… Thanks for reply !Hi Martin, I agree with Bennie that this are no deissneri. This are Parosphromenus with a round tail fin. Probably a bintan similar type. In question may come P. opallios, rubrimontis, alfredi, tweediei or also a unknown type from the not much known Sumatra or Borneo. A mix can not be exclude and I think it is probable. Even with a good picture, the assignment will be complicated or even impossible.
Christian Hinz (Berlin, Germany)
Hello, one more picture….still not perfect but I try..:)
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Hello, I know that picture is very dark and we can see only a little piece of fish but I point my attention on the marks on unpaired fin – looks like deissneri…?- (…”single short light bands”) from the description of that species. What do You think about that…
I understand why you think so, from the look of the way the spots are on what you can see on the last picture, – that in my opinion could look like deissneri – BUT, – this really does not mean that it is, – you have to put it together with the rest, especially the colours in the tail and there are other species that might look the same. You can see on my picture, – this is not a deissneri, – although it has similar type patterns in the unpaired fins as yours. This was identified as sp. Sentang, – and yet still not certain about that anyway. Very beautiful fish though, which unfortunately I dont have anymore now.
Is there red in the tail ? It looks like that in the second picture.
I would agree with Christian, its still likely to be a bintan type fish, or the others he mentions.Hello, finally I got almost perfect ( for me ) picture. I feed my paros by small black mosquito larvae, little daphnia and micro worms – they are doing very fine and become more and more colorfull 🙂 Now I know for sure that they are not P.deissneri 🙂 So what species are they ?? I know that this question are difficult..but any ideas…?
To me the fish looks very much like P. spec. Sentang (“sintangensis”) from Sumatra. Definitely it is none of the species from western Malaysia, and probably it’s none of the well-know species and variants from Kalimantan and certainly not from Sarawak. There are many bintan-like variants living on Sumatra. P. spec. Sentang is one of the most-caught and most-exported licorice gouramis of the last two or three years. In that respect, it’s predecessor was P. “blue line”, equally from Sumatra, which has been exported in high quantities. Obviously, the share of the catches fell sharply after 2008, and the Sentang form replaced them in the lists of the exporters. They tried to push the fish by naming them with the latinized “sintangensis”-name which is invalid since it is not based on any serious description. As it is the case with many other licorice gouramis, many people don’t bother with the distinctions between species and variants and simply call them all the most prominent and oldest name “deissneri”. Martin wrote correctly that this fish is definitely not of that species from Bangka; the true deissneri is simply and clearly to be identified (see our species account). Unfortunately, our scheduled pages in this website on the hitherto scientifically unidentified “other forms” are not ready to be publicized; therefore all the Sumatra variants of bintan-like fish (as spec. Sentang or spec. “blue line” or spec. Dabo or spec. Sungai Bertam etc.) are presently not described systematically anywhere in publications or the web.
Thank You for answer, besides my fish look similar to those from Helene’s pictures ( my is much yunger but collors of unpaired fins are similar ). So, now I will try keep them in good form and try to breed them, and of course try to take best pictures :)and Maybe some picture ( and observation I’ll made) will be usefull for put in “other species” catalouge… :)One more time thanks!
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