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P. tweediei and alfredi – update Dec. 2014

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  • #7499
    Rod Porteous
    Participant

    Great report. I have heard of the sedili site being cited as locale for P. Alfredi, but curious as to how far the site extends? Looking on google maps the sedili watershed area is vast, so there is an awful lot of ground to cover to get an accurate status of this species.
    Would be interesting to viisit site as water level drops, when would you recommend visiting?

    #7504
    Peter Finke
    Participant

    The Sedili site is nearly the only site which remained for P. alfredi from several small sites formerly, most of them were situated at the old road from Mawai to Desaru in the Johore province of Kota Tinggi. Google maps show a momentum some years ago when there was very high water indeed; that had changed some weeks after already. The actual site visited by Prof. Beyer was a rather small area not to be identified properly by that outdated map.

    The changing water-level may have heavy effects on the fish populations, good and bad. Beyer who was over there not for the first time will surely visit the site at his next opportunity, and there maybe a changed situation as P. alfredi is regarded. Either to the better or to the worse. But according to his report the later is most likely. Obviously, heavy building is going on over there presently, and the connections to the small remaining isles of former rainforest with the former peat swamps is obviously blocked on many places. This does not leave much hopes.

    But we have Asian members living in Singapore or nearby. Please, look and tell us the present situation!

    Fundamentally, it is advisable to go for fishing at low-water times. In high waters you are rarely lucky to find what you are searching for. Again: Our local friends, please tell us how things develop and the remaining formemost alfredi-site can be located properly again!

    We know the coordinates of of two small sites: 1) 01° 51′ 23 N, 104° 03′ 54 E, and 2) 01° 50′ 02 N, 104° 04′ 26 E.

    #7526
    Pank Jit Sin
    Participant

    Looking forward to your next visit here, too, Peter! You know what to bring. 😉
    In return, you will get durian.

    #7529
    Peter Finke
    Participant

    Jit, I don’t understand you. What do you mean with “In return, you will get durian”?
    Who or what is “durian”?

    #7534
    Peter Beyer
    Participant

    Peter – thats a Joke! Durian is a fruit – actually quite a good one when you succeed in passing it past your nose. It stinks galactically! What Jit wants from me most of all is M. kretseri. I´ll get a Durian in exchange. Well-I have to give this deal a hard thought.

    #7535
    Pank Jit Sin
    Participant

    Sorry for the confusion, Peter Finke..
    Peter Beyer, did you get any pictures of the area in Sedili?

    #7537
    Pavel Chaloupka
    Keymaster

    I tried to eat durian once and I have to admit that it is for brave people only :cheer:

    #7721
    Lawrence Kent
    Participant

    I was blessed by the opportunity to accompany Peter Beyer on this December flash expedition to Pekan Nenas, Sri Burinan, and Sedili. He is an intrepid friend of Parosphromenus! One of the pairs we collected (“Sri Burinan”) has started to produce some fry in a ten gallon tank in my home in Seattle. I joined the Parosphromenus project a couple of days ago. Helene has been providing me advice.

    #7722
    Lawrence Kent
    Participant

    Jit, I took a few photos there with PB. If Peter can’t supply, let me know how I should send them to you or post them. I’ll let you know where to send the durian in exchange.
    Lawrence

    #7725
    helene schoubye
    Keymaster

    You are very welcome here in the forum, Lawrence. Its a pleasure to have someone here who has been travelling in those areas, – and as we already spoke about, very interesting with the fish you brought back with you.
    I have uploaded the photo of the p.tweediei in the species article of P.tweediei.

    #7727
    Pank Jit Sin
    Participant

    That’s great news. We really need more people to be interested in these frail beauties. My email address is pjsalpha@gmail.com. Would greatly appreciate those pictures.
    Durian is currently off-season, you’re safe… for now… 🙂

    #7728
    Lawrence Kent
    Participant

    Attached are photos I took of the site Peter calls Sri Burinan where we found P. tweediei in December 2014 (last month). also a photo of one tweediei shortly after collection and one of a betta pulchra shortly after collection at this site.

    #7729
    Lawrence Kent
    Participant

    Here are photos I took at the site Peter calls Sedili in December. As Peter reported, we found no paros here. Mostly we found Tripchopsis vittatus here and Anabas testudineus, etc. (lame photos in photo tank back at hotel)

    #7730
    helene schoubye
    Keymaster

    Thank you so much, – it is really interesting to see photos from the areas. Can I use the photos for uploading somewhere at the homepage (probably at the species articles ) ??

    Its sad about the Sedili area, – but I understand it could be because of the water level and hopefully it could change.
    Nice to also see the tricopsis vittatus, – I have a big 325 liters with a mixed asian population, among these some tricopsis vittatus, – they are even breeding in there, which is quite well done. I guess they scare everyone with their little noises 🙂 ..

    #7731
    Peter Finke
    Participant

    It’s good to see some movement in our Asian forum thanks to Peter Beyer and Lawrence. Not to find any Paro happens quite often at certain sites; it depends heavily on the season and the water level. But in both cases there might be other reasons in the background: more damage to the blackwater feeding sources.
    Therefore, Lawrence, it would be nice if you could have a controlling view on these two sites …. Aber Peter of course, if you are back again here one day.

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