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December 24, 2014 at 5:30 pm #7499
Rod Porteous
ParticipantGreat report. I have heard of the sedili site being cited as locale for P. Alfredi, but curious as to how far the site extends? Looking on google maps the sedili watershed area is vast, so there is an awful lot of ground to cover to get an accurate status of this species.
Would be interesting to viisit site as water level drops, when would you recommend visiting?December 25, 2014 at 7:57 am #7504Peter Finke
ParticipantThe Sedili site is nearly the only site which remained for P. alfredi from several small sites formerly, most of them were situated at the old road from Mawai to Desaru in the Johore province of Kota Tinggi. Google maps show a momentum some years ago when there was very high water indeed; that had changed some weeks after already. The actual site visited by Prof. Beyer was a rather small area not to be identified properly by that outdated map.
The changing water-level may have heavy effects on the fish populations, good and bad. Beyer who was over there not for the first time will surely visit the site at his next opportunity, and there maybe a changed situation as P. alfredi is regarded. Either to the better or to the worse. But according to his report the later is most likely. Obviously, heavy building is going on over there presently, and the connections to the small remaining isles of former rainforest with the former peat swamps is obviously blocked on many places. This does not leave much hopes.
But we have Asian members living in Singapore or nearby. Please, look and tell us the present situation!
Fundamentally, it is advisable to go for fishing at low-water times. In high waters you are rarely lucky to find what you are searching for. Again: Our local friends, please tell us how things develop and the remaining formemost alfredi-site can be located properly again!
We know the coordinates of of two small sites: 1) 01° 51′ 23 N, 104° 03′ 54 E, and 2) 01° 50′ 02 N, 104° 04′ 26 E.
December 29, 2014 at 7:02 am #7526Pank Jit Sin
ParticipantLooking forward to your next visit here, too, Peter! You know what to bring. 😉
In return, you will get durian.December 29, 2014 at 9:06 pm #7529Peter Finke
ParticipantJit, I don’t understand you. What do you mean with “In return, you will get durian”?
Who or what is “durian”?December 29, 2014 at 11:58 pm #7534Peter Beyer
ParticipantPeter – thats a Joke! Durian is a fruit – actually quite a good one when you succeed in passing it past your nose. It stinks galactically! What Jit wants from me most of all is M. kretseri. I´ll get a Durian in exchange. Well-I have to give this deal a hard thought.
December 30, 2014 at 5:51 am #7535Pank Jit Sin
ParticipantSorry for the confusion, Peter Finke..
Peter Beyer, did you get any pictures of the area in Sedili?December 30, 2014 at 4:05 pm #7537Pavel Chaloupka
KeymasterI tried to eat durian once and I have to admit that it is for brave people only :cheer:
January 26, 2015 at 11:45 pm #7721Lawrence Kent
ParticipantI was blessed by the opportunity to accompany Peter Beyer on this December flash expedition to Pekan Nenas, Sri Burinan, and Sedili. He is an intrepid friend of Parosphromenus! One of the pairs we collected (“Sri Burinan”) has started to produce some fry in a ten gallon tank in my home in Seattle. I joined the Parosphromenus project a couple of days ago. Helene has been providing me advice.
January 26, 2015 at 11:48 pm #7722Lawrence Kent
ParticipantJit, I took a few photos there with PB. If Peter can’t supply, let me know how I should send them to you or post them. I’ll let you know where to send the durian in exchange.
LawrenceJanuary 27, 2015 at 1:03 am #7725helene schoubye
KeymasterYou are very welcome here in the forum, Lawrence. Its a pleasure to have someone here who has been travelling in those areas, – and as we already spoke about, very interesting with the fish you brought back with you.
I have uploaded the photo of the p.tweediei in the species article of P.tweediei.January 27, 2015 at 6:59 am #7727Pank Jit Sin
ParticipantThat’s great news. We really need more people to be interested in these frail beauties. My email address is pjsalpha@gmail.com. Would greatly appreciate those pictures.
Durian is currently off-season, you’re safe… for now… 🙂January 28, 2015 at 4:27 am #7728Lawrence Kent
ParticipantAttached are photos I took of the site Peter calls Sri Burinan where we found P. tweediei in December 2014 (last month). also a photo of one tweediei shortly after collection and one of a betta pulchra shortly after collection at this site.
January 28, 2015 at 4:41 am #7729Lawrence Kent
ParticipantHere are photos I took at the site Peter calls Sedili in December. As Peter reported, we found no paros here. Mostly we found Tripchopsis vittatus here and Anabas testudineus, etc. (lame photos in photo tank back at hotel)
January 28, 2015 at 8:03 pm #7730helene schoubye
KeymasterThank you so much, – it is really interesting to see photos from the areas. Can I use the photos for uploading somewhere at the homepage (probably at the species articles ) ??
Its sad about the Sedili area, – but I understand it could be because of the water level and hopefully it could change.
Nice to also see the tricopsis vittatus, – I have a big 325 liters with a mixed asian population, among these some tricopsis vittatus, – they are even breeding in there, which is quite well done. I guess they scare everyone with their little noises 🙂 ..January 28, 2015 at 8:27 pm #7731Peter Finke
ParticipantIt’s good to see some movement in our Asian forum thanks to Peter Beyer and Lawrence. Not to find any Paro happens quite often at certain sites; it depends heavily on the season and the water level. But in both cases there might be other reasons in the background: more damage to the blackwater feeding sources.
Therefore, Lawrence, it would be nice if you could have a controlling view on these two sites …. Aber Peter of course, if you are back again here one day. -
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