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According to their website, the dutch company Ruinemans would offer P. tweediei.
It should be checked if it really concerns tweediei – the added picture already doesn’t match. I expect to get more info in 2 weeks, and will report about it.
Best regards,
S.Steff — if you read my American post of two weeks ago you will see a similar offer was made by one of our largest importers and distributors. They offered P. Tweediei and P. Nagyi. We are fairly certain the species were not Tweediei and the evidence on the nagyi is still being reviewed. One photo of the reported Tweediei turned out to be a wild betta. We have been promised more of these fish in the coming weeks here in the states and it is hoped I will be able to obtain photos of these species before they depart the from the distributor. Please keep all of us posted on your results.
Bill, indeed, I’ve read your messages and Jennifer’s experiences attentively. Ruinemans announces to have about 200 of these so called P. Tweediei. I’ll keep you informed.
Referring to the P-Project Species-page, on July the 7th, Segrest Farms in Florida communicated to have some tank raised P. Tweediei available.
Hmm … but its quite interesting though, – I have bought paroes which came from Ruinemans quite a few times, and it seems to me that this is one importer which actually does know what they are dealing with when it comes to paroes.
I think my parvulus has come over Ruinemans.
And I think some of the shops in Denmark that sometimes have good quality parosphromenus deals with Ruinemans.
So I will keep my eyes open here as well.I have a few years of experience with Ruinemans, and I can say they have no idea what they’re selling. The picture on their site shows Nanochromis transvestitus, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that is actually what you get. I ordered some through my LFS though, so they should appear at Utaka in Amersfoort in a few weeks, when Ruinemans’ summer break ends.
Since P. tweediei‘s geographical distribution is fairly limited, it could as well be harveyi or [/i]alfredi[/i], which would’nt be bad either.They have P. linkei too. Quite big already and in very good condition.
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They have P. linkei too. Quite big already and in very good condition.[/quote]This is interesting… Our availability list for distribution is available on Saturday morning (this morning) and P. Linkei is also listed as being available on our list. I noted in a previous posting I would like to have some P. Linkei but they have not been listed for perhaps a year. They will be ordered on the next business day.
I have seen them now. They’re not tweediei but have a lot of blue in their fins. White to light blue ventral filaments, so most likely alfredi or some closely related form. I saw some of them displaying, so they seem to do fine in the store. Caudal fin band mostly brightly red, like in tweediei, with no significant blue part.
I’ll get some of them soon.
Does anyone know of a Dutch keeper of real tweediei? Seems like I am the only one in the country keeping this species… That’s way too few keepers for a safe population! I saw some fry last few days though, so there is hope…
Great News!! At least they were not wild bettas like here in the U.S. The second batch never materialized through the distributor here. I think after I guestioned the species they neglected to place the follow-on order.
Bartian, I would be happy to be a tweedie keeper – I mean Denmark is not too far from Holland 🙂 .. If we could somehow sometime get some up here I would be happy to take some fry if you find more …
Hi all,
On Monday I have retrieved the first 25 pairs of Parosphromenus “tweediei” from ruinemans? They are special orderd by Bettas pride (by me) for the parospromenus-project. Just as Bartian says it isn’t the tweediei and it cold be the spec. Langgam or the cf. aff. tweediei.(see pictures)
The first one is from.
http://www.igl-home.de/bilder/gallery/parosphromenus/00.pTweediei..cf.aff.HJR.800×600.075.html
The second is the one we are talking about. sorry for the bad picture quality.
On the third and the fourth one you can see sp.langgam.
https://www.parosphromenus-project.org/en/langgam.html
http://fickelfrisch.blog.de/2011/04/11/parosphromenus-sp-langgam-10984191/
Best regards,
ArminAre we talking about this species?
https://www.parosphromenus-project.org/en/p-phoenicurus.htmlIts hard to say, – I wouldnt be able to, – but its a very interesting fish, nice to see that it actually is maybe ‘close’ to what they say it should be.
Have you ruled out opallios ?If you look at the image at http://www.igl-home.de/bilder/gallery/parosphromenus/00.pOpallios.KOS.male.800×600.072dpi075.html I would think theres also quite some similarities.
But the likeness to phoenicurus is big too.[quote=”helene” post=2435]Its hard to say, – I wouldnt be able to, – but its a very interesting fish, nice to see that it actually is maybe ‘close’ to what they say it should be.
Have you ruled out opallios ?[/quote]No I don’t have ruled out opallios and even not rubrimontis.
If you take 25 males you can see little difference in the drawings like at a wild Poecilia wingei strain.
Presently there are opallios on the European market. P. tweediei and especially P. phoenicurus have never been traded at all. All our stock (and there is quite big a stock of both species) are from private expeditions. It is probable that tweediei will be in trade sooner or later, but I should rule out phoenicurus. They are fould in one small place on Sumatra only, and never has a commercial fish-catcher been seen there.
Some years ago there were fish in the trade that we called spec. Kota Tinggi, which look somewhat in-between tweediei and alfredi. But we have not seen them again for years. Their status is unclear.
If one is lucky to get an answer to this, the second question is at which location it has been found. This question will (or could) nearly never been answered. (There was an exception: spec. Ampah).
If fish are from private breeders (which is extremely rare) the name should be obtained. Then it is easier to follow the lines of descendance,
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