Parosphromenus phoenicurus

[Bernd Bussler]

It’s been some time that imported about Herbert Nigl (Aquarium Dietz Bach / Germany) Parosphromenus phoenicurus to Germany and have been distributed.
I would like to hear from the many customers if there is already reported to breeding success.
My animals from this import are still too small to spawn ………….. and I do not want to be the first report of the offspring.
Greeting Bernd Bussler https://www.parosphromenus-project.org/media/kunena/emoticons/ermm.png

[helene schoubye]

same here. All good, but no spawning yet.
But perhaps not so long time before something happens 🙂
Here are a few photos from today

[Dorothee Jöllenbeck-Pfeffel]

Hi, mine also are still not breeding because too young.

I´m now thinking if I shall leave the three phoenicurus (which I can´t see all three at the same time) in the small tank (40x25x25) or if they would be better in my new made tank 40×30 (front ) and 60 cm back/deep with a diversity of caves (so they won’t have to do camping 😉 ) or if I shall wait till they begin to spawn in some weeks or months and move the young linkei in the bigger tank to leave the parents with their baby offspring. What do you think?

[Dorothee Jöllenbeck-Pfeffel]

Upps … :woohoo: :whistle: 😛 forget my question upside :whistle: ….

The answer now seems to me: never change a running system :whistle:

I wanted finally impatient to see if my three phoenicurus still all are alive … and I found more live than I expected (also fever live, because I didn’t see all the adults) but I think you suspect already what I found – the first offspring :whistle: where one is can be more …

Now I turned the 40x25x25 cm tank with the 25×25 side front forward as often recommended to be able to see the shy fish the more, perhaps because they feel they have a chance to escape in the background …

And the big tank 60x40x30 (and another planned one) will be then for the offspring. The one soon ready run for the offspring the linkei which are already becoming rather numerous …..

I will try to make photos, but for better photos I must wait for christmas ( I have wished a macro for my camera :whistle: )

[Dorothee Jöllenbeck-Pfeffel]

Now I got some photos of the pair – and found minimum two offspring in different size, but my camera couldn’t find them …

And I found I had tried to invent the wheel again – I can see now that I have the same constellation of the tank found today, as the linkei tank.
The filter in the back, so that the food floats in the front and the fish therefore too … :side: :whistle:

By the way – my male don’t has so red stripes on the fins as the one Helene has posted …

[helene schoubye]

Congratulations, – that is really good news. Fantastic to be the one to first report offspring of this fine species. I hope there are more than the one, – but as we know there often is. 😉

I have a p.tweediei pair which spawned and where I took the parents out immidiately. It has taken weeks now of feeding an ’empty’ tank before I can really see the small ones. Just tells you how long they can hide in a tank if you dont think they are there 🙂
This method of breeding though has created a tiny problem for me, – I count around 15-20 offspring :S
Actually these p.tweediei were strange, I have had them for over a year now, – and they showed no interest in spawning untill I separated them into smaller tanks with a pair in each. Before that they were 2.3 in a bigger tank, but nothing. And in the beginning they were seperated in pairs too, but nothing happened. The day after separating them the last time one of the pairs had eggs in the cave. The other pair is still doing ‘nothing’.

[Dorothee Jöllenbeck-Pfeffel]

Ah, o.k. that´s interesting. So I will leave the pair in the small tank.
For the offspring are fine, I will leave them also. The linkei seem to be well in their parents tank till now too.
Soon the new tank will be ready for them (the young linkei). So I will do for the phoenicurus too.
And when the spawning pair will stop to have offspring, I can put them in the bigger tank and try a new pair.

But I saw, that even in my small and not so “old” tank their was much mulm where I think the offspring got infusoria.
Also my linkei seem to grow quick. I had just the five who where behind the math filter in a breeding tank (the rucksack tank) and four of them survived and I put them again back into the parents tank.

[helene schoubye]

I am not saying that small tanks are always better. It was just these p.tweediei, – and it was just so strange that they had gone for so long (more than a year) with no interest in spawning, – and then all of a sudden because of a change in environment, – it happened.
I sometimes thing that it is also excatly this : the sudden change of environment might trigger another behaviour.

[Bernd Bussler]

Nice that it feedback and breeding of Phoenicurus gibthoffentlich sign up soon more.
So it is with me, I have removed the plants because they were not nice (Ph 3.5 to 3.8 as no surprise) and I simply replaced by a thick location leaves and even spawn Tweedei, Harvey, alleni and Rubrimontis from.
Sometimes it’s the simple things bring success.

[Davy Grenouillet]

Hello all,

I’m looking for 2 males Parosphromenus phoenicurus.

[john walsh]

Congratulations Dorothee, great news and with so many fish dispersed around the mainland, hopefully more Paro friends will join in with your success and a healthily diverse breeding stock can be maintained.

Helene, your small problem with large numbers of Tweediei juveniles to pass on could be eased should you ever visit us here in the UK 😉

I too find that small tanks (<10L) with single pairs are more successful. If courtship behaviour is not present after a short time or has subsided, I will use the opportunity of a water change to separate out both fish, re-scape the tank (moving the filter and heater too) and reintroduce the fish one at a time(female first, male one hour later). This method has not always produced successful mating, but never ceases to switch on courtship in the male fish in my experience.

[Peter Finke]

I see this per chance in a hotel during a lecturing tour.

One of the best breeders we had was Allan Brown (P. allani) from Britain. He bred his fish in 5-liter-tanks, but he changed water daily.

[Bernd Bussler]

Then maybe I could help.
Write me on my private messages

[Pavel Chaloupka]

Congratulations 🙂 Great news.

[helene schoubye]

Just one more photo, – it is a very attractive species.

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