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September 10, 2016 at 9:24 pm #9013Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipant
And I spoke about the oxygen in the water, not in the air …
September 10, 2016 at 11:48 pm #9014Russell GreenParticipantI personally prefer to transport fish in the normal bags filled with oxygen whenever possible. If iti had been possible for me to deliver them personally, then they would have been packed like this in a large polystyrene box.
Because the fish were being sent via the postal system there are restrictions in both weight and size of the package. Also, the courier and postal system dont carry live fish.Therefore we needed to use the smallest and lightest size possible. Normal fish bags would have made the package too large and add the risk of the water being heard sloshing around when moved.
I hadn’t considered small plastic screw top containers, but they may be an option in the future.As I said, they are not my preferred way to transport fish. But they are an option if space and weight is a problem.
September 11, 2016 at 2:54 pm #9015Bill HunterParticipantSorry for my delay in getting back to this thread.
This was my first experience of receiving fish in breathable bags. But not my first experience of receiving fish by this delivery method. While there is no scientific evidence for anything I relate may I add my own observations?
Fish arriving in “normal” bags usually arrived a little stressed, except for fighters, they usually settle down immediately on arrival and spawn within 2 days due to the change in water chemistry I would assume. Other Gourami and Betta species often arrive a little stressed and require a week or two to settle. The Paros, however, seemed to be not phased in the slightest. They were under the leaves in the bag when unpacked but immediately came out of the leaves and appeared very calm. On introduction to their tanks the Paros remained calm and not in the slightest bit timid. They feed and swim around, they don’t hide very often and I see them every day and can see they are happy and content.
I’m not going to claim that this was down to the breathable bags because, as I said, this was my first experience with those type of bags. It may, in fact, be down to the natural disposition of the Paros.
In contrast, a friend, around the same time, received some Betta species from the UK which were, for some inexplicable reason, held for 24 hours longer than they should have been, they were in “normal” bags, all 8 fish died within 48 hrs of arrival, I think 2 were dead on arrival. My feeling is, if they had been in breathable bags they may well have survived their delay. I don’t think for one moment that it was poor packing by the vendor, but the delay. I think breathable bags may help any fish if they were to be subject to a delay by postal/courier services.
The Paros are growing and colouring up nicely, the juveniles in particular. A male P. phoenicurus is practicing his courtship rituals and so is one of the male P. nagyi. I wish all fish could arrive so happy and content.
BillSeptember 11, 2016 at 3:52 pm #9016Pavel ChaloupkaKeymasterAside from the “breathing”, I think that huge advantage of the Kordon and other such bags is the water not splashing and otherwise moving. It could be very important with some fish, as the constatnt move of the water in normal bags could be both stressing and exhausting for them. Problem with the other labyrinths could be their need of aproaching the water level to breath.
September 11, 2016 at 4:29 pm #9017Bill HunterParticipant[quote=”Deepin peat” post=5719]Problem with the other labyrinths could be their need of aproaching the water level to breath.[/quote]
Yes, that might be a problem.
BillSeptember 27, 2016 at 11:52 pm #9058Gianne SouzaParticipantVery interesting note on the breather bags – we’ve always had huge controversy about their use in the betta world. I’ve never seen my paros utilize their labyrinth organ, while bettas gulp air all the time. Good to know that the bags could be used interchangeably with this fish (although breather bags are more expensive right?)
Glad that the transaction work! That’s very exciting 🙂
Cheers
GianneJune 12, 2018 at 1:56 pm #9470Ganser60 n/aParticipantThis is a very nicely written post. You have just made it more interesting. Talking about shipping, I have worked at a company that offered very good parcel and medical courier Dallas services. I worked there for a very short period of time. Therefore, I like reading such informative posts.
June 12, 2018 at 2:53 pm #9471Peter FinkeParticipantThe problem are not missing compagnies for safely shipping living Paros across the channel or even across the ocean. There are enough of them, and they need not to be specialized on medical things. And the problem are not the bags, breathing bags or normal ones. For Betta you better take the former, for Paros you don’t need to.
The problem is the costs or better: the aquarists who are not willing to pay higher costs for such services. There are enough fish, enough offspring, enough alternatives. But shipping them safely costs definitely more than a normal letter or parcel. And this is too much for many people. That is the problem.
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