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Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipant
The recipe to put the peat under the sand or soil sounds a bit like the advices for aquascaping…
My son has recently bought an used tank with soil, floor heating and floor fluter….The people who take peat as ground material here in the project cover just the bottom of the tank with it and than some leaves above … There is a thread about that …
Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantHallo Rafael!
They will eat anyway! Even if they prefer to hide a bit! 😉 they can also wait till the food comes under the leaves or in the back of the tank! They will be fine!
Soon they will show themselves more freely!Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantNach jahrelanger Erfahrung weiß man sicherer was mit dem Wasser los ist, denke ich.
Wenn man erst neu beim “Schwarzwassermachen ist, ist man unsicherer, vor allem, wenn man wie ich, es ohne Torf probieren möchte. Aber Pavels Rezept funktioniert prima! 😉In English:
With some years experience you now from “feeling” how the water behaves. But if you are a new blackwater fan, you are not so sure about all that parameters, especially if one wants to try without peat, like me now.
But Pavels recipe works well! 😉Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantDrop tests with my photometer don’t seem to be influenced by the EC.
By the way – my electrode of my pH meter seems to be exhausted. It measures in water with EC 60 microsiemens pH 5,9 while my photometer reads just 4,9 pH. And much lower I never had been, even with peat.Another question: some time ago I told, that my new peat granules make EC higher when soaked in my osmosis water. Then came with Peter Finkes answer, that our German peat is no more plenty available, and therefore not the best quality when formed to granules, the thoughts to leave peat.
Now I have begun to soak elder cones in osmosis water to get a concentrate and had the same result: within one day pH about 4,5 and EC 250. …..
What’s about that? Are that just the concentrated humin and fulvin acids or harming substances???Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantHello Pavel,
Thank you! The link makes clear what the problem is!Now I have to learn about drop tests 😉
Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantHallo Pavel, I’m still thinking about what you wrote. How much differs the measurement of pH electrode in water with lower EC than 30? I couldn’t find nothing in the web. Just that adding NaCl would not really help. But my knowledge about chemistry isn’t very good.
And what’s about drop tests? How do they work in low EC?
And why do plants make a higher pH? My Salvinia minima grows and grows … It’s a pity that at the moment it’s to cold to send them away to blackwater aquarists who would like them….
Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantHello Pavel,
yes, I have heard about that (the problem that pH can’t be measured exactly with normal electrodes if EC is very low).
What is your experience? Is the real pH lower or higher? how much differs the measure from “reality”?
Whats about measuring pH with my photometer?Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantHello Pavel,
yes, seems to work good, implied that a pH around 5 is o.k. for our Paros.
Or do you provide a lower pH with your extracts?Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantI saw that my linkei offspring males already chose a cave for them, so I gave my phoenicurus offspring also new caves.
And one male at once took possession of the front one ;-):And now I have managed to get a little bit red in the fins on the foto …
Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantHi Robman! Welcome!
Yes, here you can find many good informations!
And if you have got male and female P.linkei, you will soon have a big P. linkei family! 🙂Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantOh oh … that are no good news … I never would have thought about that that could be possible … I never saw fry near the swimming plants …. I had to have a look what Salvinia natans look like, and they are exactly my own swimming plant species…..
Are you really sure? If you would take leaves from one tank to the other which law on the ground, it would be obvious.
What could we do? I’m so glad, that I have now some good adapted plants in my tanks … Should we give the plants a kind of quarantine in water (divided in “species” they come from?Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantB) :cheer: 😉
And here another new little linkei: :silly:
Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantAnbei noch mal junge Linkei:
I forgot wich language I was writing, English or German, sorry 😉 Translated:
Here again some young linkei:beim Frühstück:
having breakfast:junge Männchen:
young guys:Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantYes, that is the same what I have observed … More aggressive towards each other …and much more shy towards observation.
But in my case the male seems always to be in the back of the tank, perhaps “busy” and the females are the only ones who show themselves in the front, perhaps he chases them towards the front part of the tank….
Concerning the offspring till now survived about 25 of them eventual parental aggression ….Dorothee Jöllenbeck-PfeffelParticipantMine don´t have color … I always try to get a photo which shows that nice red … no chance till now … There was once the question if mine would really be phoenicurus … but they are from the same “stock” …
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