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I don’t think there is any real answer to your question as it is. What exactly is the chemical you want to remove?
I’m not a chemist, but as I see it, trying to find sufficient plant growth under such conditions is like trying to use a biological filter. Hence the reason I, and a lot of others, choose not to grow plants in the breeding tanks, also relying on plenty weekly water changes instead of using filters and everything works out fine. I’m not anti-filter, but I prefer to breed all my fish without. Bettas, Gourami, Killifish, Macropodus etc.
If you are having a problem with a pollutant in your tanks you need to identify it and treat it as required. If you are merely talking about a “what if” scenario, then there is no answer unless you can be more definitive.
Personally, I do water changes 3 times a week, in between water changes I vacuum the solids out thereby giving extra small water changes.
I would avoid having “what if” scenarios, they might never happen and you will lose valuable time studying your fishes actual needs.
BillAny chemical compounds in the water will be taken care of if you do enough water changes, perhaps twice a week at least if you aren’t using a filter.
BillPerhaps they just feel a bit more exposed in the larger tank and all the external activity takes place at the front. Maybe they will settle down eventually or maybe you might have to put them back into smaller tanks where they feel secure. Try giving them more plants/items as cover at the front. My Betta siamorientalis do similar after a water change but settle again.
BillThanks, John. I’m just waiting to hear back from Customs and the Department of Agriculture here and will post the results.
BillHi Russ,
Thanks for that clear explanation. But it opens up other important questions. I myself am in favour of holding the next meet in Germany, I look on Germany as being the centre of Parosphromenus breeding and science in Europe if not the world. However, it appears from what little canvassing I’ve done in Ireland there is a reluctance to attend if it means fish can’t be brought back.
Could you tell me where the paperwork and expense was to be found? Was it with the airline or customs?
If it was down to customs then it would be very easy for me to fulfill and clear that obstacle. I have a licence and am registered to import plants from around the world. Now I know it is for plants and doesn’t cover me for live fish, but that is just another step in the bureaucracy of red-tape and shouldn’t cause a problem in getting it sorted. Having also, at one time, imported plants into the UK I am aware that the costs of doing so has become very prohibitive in comparison to Ireland. Anyway, I’m in the process of looking into this and will keep everyone updated on it. If the expense is down to customs then I see this as merely adding around €1.00 or perhaps €2.00 to the price of a fish. The only other expense I can imagine is that Customs in Ireland may wish to see a health certificate issued by a German Veterinary to state that the fish are free from certain disease.
How do Transshippers of fish operate in the UK? As far as I can see if I used a transshipper in the UK to bring in a pair of fish from Malaysia or elsewhere then I would pay $5.00 for shipping each fish then pay the transshipper whatever postage charges are from them to me and pay the exporter the price of the fish.
Bill
Peter,
If I can help in the discussion on where to hold the next conference. My suggestion would be to hold it in Hamburg again on this next occasion and in the meantime we could all work together on another venue for the third conference. Germany is in the forefront of keeping and breeding Parosphromenus.I did think about Dublin, however I had to quickly dismiss the thought. We just don’t have sufficient breeders or keepers in Ireland. Currently I am only aware of two people that have any Paro and one of them is myself. Two other people are extremely keen to get Paro and breed them and are currently waiting for fish.
Can I ask anyone that attended the last conference in Hamburg what the situation was for returning to the UK with fish from Hamburg? Are licences etc required? It appears from preliminary questioning that only myself (disability permitting) would be willing to attend anywhere other than the UK or Ireland if bringing back fish on the flight would cause problems. Personally I would be attending for educational reasons and returning with fish would be a huge bonus.
Having said all that, should members merely want a change of venue I’m sure I could find someplace in Ireland to hold it, but it would mean little to no fish to be bought here. No Paro set-ups to visit etc. We can only offer a friendly welcome. The expertise, talks, slideshows and fish would have to be brought with you.
An alternative that I thought of is, could someone liaise with Anabantoid Association of Great Britain and possible share a combined conference with them one year.
BillHopefully we will have several more breeders of this and other species in Ireland in the near future, Bernd.
BillThanks, Helene. All my photography is plants, flowers and wildlife, fish are new to me but I’ll master it soon 🙂
I love this species, Parosphromenus quindecim. They are probably the bravest of the Paros I have. As soon as I approach the tank they come straight to the front to see what I’m up to. Please excuse the glass, I did clean it but unfortunately the lens showed I hadn’t cleaned it adequately 😳
Juvenile male Parosphromenus quindecim
They are growing fast and are beginning to colour up.
Bill[quote=”Deepin peat” post=5719]Problem with the other labyrinths could be their need of aproaching the water level to breath.[/quote]
Yes, that might be a problem.
BillSorry for my delay in getting back to this thread.
This was my first experience of receiving fish in breathable bags. But not my first experience of receiving fish by this delivery method. While there is no scientific evidence for anything I relate may I add my own observations?
Fish arriving in “normal” bags usually arrived a little stressed, except for fighters, they usually settle down immediately on arrival and spawn within 2 days due to the change in water chemistry I would assume. Other Gourami and Betta species often arrive a little stressed and require a week or two to settle. The Paros, however, seemed to be not phased in the slightest. They were under the leaves in the bag when unpacked but immediately came out of the leaves and appeared very calm. On introduction to their tanks the Paros remained calm and not in the slightest bit timid. They feed and swim around, they don’t hide very often and I see them every day and can see they are happy and content.
I’m not going to claim that this was down to the breathable bags because, as I said, this was my first experience with those type of bags. It may, in fact, be down to the natural disposition of the Paros.
In contrast, a friend, around the same time, received some Betta species from the UK which were, for some inexplicable reason, held for 24 hours longer than they should have been, they were in “normal” bags, all 8 fish died within 48 hrs of arrival, I think 2 were dead on arrival. My feeling is, if they had been in breathable bags they may well have survived their delay. I don’t think for one moment that it was poor packing by the vendor, but the delay. I think breathable bags may help any fish if they were to be subject to a delay by postal/courier services.
The Paros are growing and colouring up nicely, the juveniles in particular. A male P. phoenicurus is practicing his courtship rituals and so is one of the male P. nagyi. I wish all fish could arrive so happy and content.
BillI’m not 100% sure what you mean, Bernd, but it is a two day event in England, I haven’t got the full details yet. I have a couple of friends attending from Ireland and thought it would be an ideal opportunity to get a few more Paros into Ireland. I’ll update you as soon as I have more information.
BillAn update to this thread.
I’m now the proud owner of a pair of Parosphromenus nagyi and a pair of P. phoenicurus. They arrived this afternoon via a similar method to the one mentioned above. This particular company charges €0.10 less per delivery and also delivers direct to the door, no need to drive for 20 minutes to a locker. They were posted in England on Tuesday and they arrived at 2.40 this afternoon (Thursday)and all were safe, well and hardly stressed. A very successful shipment.
Bill
