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When you write your first post, it has to approved by admin 🙂 thats why it does not show immidiately. Next post will be fine. It help us avoid spammers.
But unfortunately the forum is not really active, – most people write in our facebookgroup. You can find the link to it on the frontpageBut to answer some of your questions, – about fish that go well with paros – in nature they live with quite a lot of different type fish, but in tanks, they are not so easy. They do best probably one same species, – but some of the smaller boraras are very fine, like boraras brigittae or maculatus.
Some people have also kept them with chocolate gouramies, – these are natural companions, and in tanks may be going well enough.
The problem can be, that paros are a bit smaller, and bit shy, so competition for food can be difficult, – still paros are not that timid, – so it can also work well.How to go below ph 5, – there are also many answers I am sure. I use only osmosis, this is the only way I can get water soft enough. And in order to get a low ph, and keep it stable, its important to have really soft water. You can use oak extract, or you can use different type of black water leaves, spagnum pellets which you soak in the soft water for some time.
I use oak extract, this has worked for me for many years, but I am certain there are many other ways to experiment with it.
To keep paros, of course in nature they are living in very acid water, but you will still find that they will not need most of them, to go under 5. 5 is fine. Even for spawning and egg developments, 5 will most like be good enough.Hi there.
Thanks for registering and replying, – but I would like to make you aware that you are answering a post which is 3 years old 🙂 ..
Dear Paul
I put it up in the facebook group, and I did get a confirmation, as I think I also wrote here. I think you can be certain that these are paludicola.
They do look to be doing well, so you have done a great job.
The conditions they have now, is also very fine and proper food, – so there’s good reason to be optimisticKind regards Helene
Hi Paul
Thanks for your work trying to rescue these, – they are as you say, rare and threathened. And paros in a shop, that is not used to them have a hard time.
I did certainly put a note up in the facebookgroup, and also contacted some in the area. I dont know if anyone then goes to check and buy, but I am hoping too.
I also got a confirmation from Martin Hallmann (who really knows more about id than me) – and he did agree it looked to be paludicola.When you think they are ready for moving on to someone else, let me know, and I will try to find someone. It should be possible.
Kind regards HeleneYes, that is interesting, – and sound as if your thoughts about import from Sumatra is right. Very exciting news.
Thank you for letting me use the photo, I will of course label the photos with your species identification, – but there is no doubt about it being sumatranus – and our library of sumatranus photos is rather small so it will be very helpful to add these 🙂Also I will post a link to your post in forum.
Nice to hear from you also 🙂 … it is a long time agoIf you look at our species page with p. sumatranus I think you might quess my next question :whistle: :whistle: …
may I use your photos on the species page for P. sumatranus ??Wow, David, what beautiful photos, and wonderful fish – that is really good to hear.
Thank you for the kind words about our homepage 🙂 .. I must admit I think the forum is not as active as usual, – but then the group on facebook is very active.
I would like to share your infomation about these fish there (in the fb-group) as I know there are often people in the States looking for paros.These are very beautiful, and its such a relief and nice to now at all be doubting what species it is – theres no doubt about it here.
Hi Scato
This behaviour is not really uncommon, – but there are of course two options, – which you mention yourself.
It can of course be another male, – and if so this male would probably, if smaller, not show too much colour. And if it is a young male, it may be difficult to see.
But it can also be a female. The ‘normal’ spawning behaviour will be that the male chases the female. This is part of stimulating the female to become ready to spawn.
If for some reason, the female does not become ready to spawn, – then of course the ‘chasing’ can become less good, – but many times it will end with the female becoming ready.The important thing in this is that you have enough space, and hiding places in the tank that the fish, whether female or male, can stand the ‘chasing’ and get away and become ‘invisible for periods of time. And of course you have to monitor what happens, – and if it continues to not lead to the ‘female’ becoming interested, then perhaps you need to separate the fish. But normally, with enough hiding places, and a little bit of space, – paros will not harm each other at all. They are not like many other labyrints who really will almost kill each other, – not at all. But still of course its not optimal to have two males together in one tank.
When you are experienced, you would also be able to see on the male behaviour whether he is actually threathening, or trying to impress. If its another male, he will threaten, – he will not be so splendid in colours, he could turn much more dark, almost black – thats a sure sign. So look for that also.
Hope thats helpful.Hello Zahar.
I am not ‘old’ (in paro-knowledge) enough to have ever seen the sp. which you are mentioning, – but I am sure there are others here who have.
Thank you for sharing this with us, these are very beautiful and good photos.Okay, – so …
🙂 – people are often looking for fish with proper id in the states, so if you get a lot of fry, dont forget to let us know, or write it here in forum – we might be able to connect you with people who are looking.
I do know distances is often a problem, but still – you may be able to help each other out.
It would be really valuable to hold on to a species as the one you have here and to spread it to different people.By the way, – I am curious a little – where did you get these ? I see you are in the States, and we get lots of inquiries from the states – so its interesting to know where you got them ?
I have never experienced a male eating fry – in the cave. That would also be a little contradictionary. He is committed to taking care of the fry while in the nest, so he wont eat them. Even after they leave the cave he is likely to not bother them. But female are famous for doing it.
I have transferred cave with male and fry, after they hatched, but before leaving cave.
I normally get a lot more fry this way.
Regarding seing fry once they leave the cave, – its quite likely that you dont see them, even going for artemia etc. – but of course if you clear the tank – there wont be any left.
But they hide, and they take one or two artemia which happens to swim to the back of the tank, – the fry dont nessesarely go where the artemia are, – or they live of something else in the tank, smaller things, – who knows.
I am not saying this has to be the case with your fry, – I am only saying that this is what people normally experience with paro fry. You dont think you have any, but you do. You may not see them at all before they are rather big, and you wonder every time – how do they manage to excape you searching the tank like a detective with flash light and all sorts of things.
🙂Moving eggs is not really normal behaviour for paros, but it can happen. I have had it happen a few times.
What could trigger such behaviour could be one of the following :
1 Young and confused male. You can see often that it does take the male a few tries before he gets it right.
2. Too many available caves making the choice difficult 🙂 … you do see that sometimes, – that if there are many choices of caves, for some reason the male decides that his first choice isnt the right one, – and he may then try to move the rest. Usually the best is to actually not provide too many obtions, – if the cave is good enough, one choice is fine.
If also there are more fish in the tank, or more males, this can also lead to this insecurity regarding whether the place might not be good enough.But it is not common at all, and even if all the circumstances may be true, it might not happen to all males. But I wouldnt worry.
Expect you say it seems like an egg. That would of course be a priority to figure out. And that it is not something else, like a skinproblem or blister or something ?
