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🙂 Bernd, I think it will come, not to worry.
But I will say about this species, – that from my observation, – the phoenicurus that I have seem to have a bit more ‘agressive’ temperament than many other species. It reminds me of the p.tweediei (or rubrimontis) which I also have. They are more agressive towards each other and towards the fry as well. Unless the male is guarding a nest, the females are really hidden somewhere in the back of the tank and not allowed up front.
I only see the females when the male is ‘busy’. This is not so with for example parvulus or nagyi or linkei.
Perhaps this has got to do with them being a bit more ‘difficult’ ?I hope its all right that I ‘borrow’ your linkei thread, Dorothee :)…
I took a photo last night of one of my males, – he had just got a new female in the tank and he was so showing off. I tried to take photos for more than an hour, this is the best of these 🙂The linkei are so beatiful. I also just discovered that in the 60 liter linkei tank (where I had originally put about 10 adult linkeis) there are now at least 10 juveniles.
That was not the plan though 😉 but obviously they did fine in this tank which also has a small filter.
I have now added four juvelnile betta persephone, – that may stop that there will be more offspring. For the time being thats fine with me. The persephone and the paros are a really good match, the paros are not bothered at all, even the small ones.Just spotted the first p.phoenicurus offspring in one of the two tanks which was set up in september. Its at least a cm big, so it is a few months old. I have only seen the one.
I set the tank up in september, very dark and really just wanted the fish to settle for a while. Obviously they did spawn and breed.
So just to report this.I think its a very beatiful species actually. They look pretty much like my first paros.
Identification though is one of the difficult ones I am sure.
The ‘lancet’ like caudal fin to me is not lancet like. If you look at the caudal fin in those fish in the photo where you can see it all spread out, it seems to me to be round. Even some ’round’ caudal fins can appear lancet like when not fully spread out, they kind of fold and look pointed, but they are not really.
Again, theres no doubt in my mind that they are part of the ‘bintan’- type forms, whatever that will mean. To say p.bintan is something which I would not be able to, – I am actually very uncertain what would indicate a definite p.bintan. That would be for more experts to say.But this particular fish look to me similar to those species or variants which has been going under the identification as spec. sentang or blue line.
When I had mine, they were initially identified as p.spec.sentang.I looked again at the first photos you uploaded in this thread, and what still strikes me is the very brownish colour which at an earlier stage was quite dominant in the caudal fin. This might help narrow things down perhaps ?
In the photo at least you have 3 females, but I am sure you have also noticed.Thats all right 🙂 .. I just didnt feel comfortable if my attempt at identifying this particular fish would mean that they named it p.bintan 🙂 … I think it is still rather uncertain what it really is.
I would like to quickly reply to this then, – reading what Bill is writing.
I did reply to Bill asking if a particular photo would be likely to be that of p.deissneri, – which I did not think.
And I did then say that I would say more likely to be some type of bintan form., I did not say p.bintan ( I really would not know anything about that)I am sorry if this has been taken as a clear identification that it would be p.bintan, – because I do absolutely not know that for a fact.
I did not know, Bill, that my attempt at helping with identification would be taken to this extend.I am no expert on identifikation – for precise id there are much more qualified people then me 🙂
Anyway, this is just to clear some of that up. If this is the fish at wetspot, – I have seen a photo of it, – but I would say it is very difficult to properly identify it just like that.
Hello Aidan
🙂 Thank you very much for your photos, – it is good to see that you are very enthusiastic and that you are happy with your fish.
Its very difficult to take photos of parosphromenus, I know that.But I would like to ask you to not create a new thread for each photo, – unless of course they are a different species.
It would be much better if you uploaded new photos in the same thread. This way we can see all the photos in one time. And it makes it less confusing.
Actually I will put all of your photo-threads into one 🙂 .. I can do that because I am admin 😉 ..Thank you Stepfanie. Great photos.
Many of your p.rubrimontis cf mimbon 2008 have been uploaded in the ‘other species’ section. They are very fine.
Also the female quindecim is a good photo. Its interesting to see how much colour they can show. I have had quindecim and I have seen the same. But its difficult to take photos of it.I think I will assist Bernd here in putting it in a different way which is easier to understand.
The email adress parodistribution@parosphromenus-project.org is the email adress which you can write to if you want to get in personal contact with Bernd (who is responsible for the distribution)
This is the same for any person who wishes to get in contact with our parodistribution and with Bernd.You cannot log on to anything :)…
(Sorry, Bernd I just felt I had to correct this, it sounds wrong in english. )
Thats good to hear, then 🙂 … I couldnt see that they were small. I was just a bit surprised to see that different fish together.
I wont pretend to know a lot about the sewellias 🙂 it sounds like you know them much better. I just know that I had some at some time, and I wasnt paying enough attention to their different needs regarding flow of water.
So I didnt want to start a discussion for sure, – and I am glad to hear they arent supposed to stay.The shrimps, yes for sure live in same biotope 🙂
Hello Frederik.
Nice to see you have got some fish and that you want to breed the linkei’s.
I would like to say something to the set up though, – and I don’t mean to start out being ‘critical’ 🙂 but …. when I see the photos I can see that there are a few other species in there and although they may come from around the same kind of areas, – they are very different in their requirements.
The little hillstream loach is such a lover of moving waters, in fact as far as I remember from when I once had them, they really depend on it because of the content of oxygen in moving water.
And the paros prefer still or if anything just very very slow moving water.
Hill stream loaches and paros are really not good company :huh:
I just had to mention that, – but its very good that you are going to separate them into a breeding tank, that will be a lot better.Anyway, – it looks great. Its good to hear that theres interest in parosphromenus in Poland, – I do know that we have some members there, – very good to hear from you. I am sure we will understand your english 🙂
And laughter is always goodSo very welcome here 🙂
Hello Andrzej
Thank you very much for uploading your photos here, – as Mark is saying it is very inspirational to see photos of tanks that others have done.
It seems you must have a lot of experience, those tanks have not been easy setting up.I have bigger tanks as well, – for breeding I keep them small, but I have to say that the paros in many cases seem to do better in the bigger tanks, – they grow well, they are more visible, – they also spawn. My linkeis have spawn just recently, – they are a small flock of 7-8 fish in a 60 liter, – and it is a joy to see how well they look.
I also have had b.persephone with parosphromenus harveyi, – that of course is no good idea if you want either of them to spawn, – but they thrived really well together in a bigger tank. And sometimes it happens, – as for me, I have far too many parosphromenus offspring and noone to hand them on to, – so when I have 20 + harveyi and plus that 3 breeding couples, – well, then I really think it is a good idea to create bigger tanks as you have done.When you called your topic Asia, Malaysia, Johor …. does that mean that you are looking particularly to this area also in terms of other things than the fish ? I mean in what way are you using the knowledge from these areas in your tanks ??
I hope I am not being misunderstood 🙂 … I just wanted to say, that ideas about how to perhaps make profiles more flexible for indiviuals to fill in, are ideas which we are looking at, and I am hoping that we will be able to realise some of this soon.
I was however not talking about a new feature, or introducing any new set way for people to report stocks or something like that. I am not aware of a ‘new feature’ as such, only a possibility of making profiles more flexible and usable, of course by individual choice.
We are not introducing something which would force people to report things they dont want to report or any such thing. And we are not thinking of replacing any kind of Census, – only improve peoples ability to communicate together IF they would like to.
I think that it would be good, – even our PM system is not very ‘user-friendly’ (I often dont see the tiny envelope) and I am hoping this can be improved as well.And just to add : what I mean saying we are working with it, is that there are actual plans, – hopefully happening in not so long time, – involving a few changes to the homepage, – and this is one of the ideas which will be part of that. It will all have to be tested and approved, – but I am hoping it will be helpful also in this aspect.
