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That interesting that he did turn out so clear 🙂 .. he does look like a fine nagyi male now ..
Beatiful little fish, but then nagyi males are always so charming in my opinion.Hello Davy
Thank you very much.
I also wish everybody here a happy Easter. Here in Denmark it has been wonderfully sunny B)Again, if you look at the fish in the photo in the link – you do not see a parosphromenus deissneri. There are some clear important markings missing, such as the pointed spear in the caudal fin.
I would be cautious about the id of these fish sold here, however its always of course interesting what it then is.The fish on the photo in the link resembles the fish I bought recently under the name of Parosphromenus Gunawani. They were not that.
Theres a thread here (with images) https://parosphromenus-project.org/en/forum/9-Trade/1475-p-gunawani-at-ruinemans.htmlB) To be honest, that would be impossible. These could be females, in which case it is completely impossible to id them, since most female resembles each other.
If you have 8, there should be males among them, and it only through good photos of one of these – where it is showing good coloration that we can help identifying what species it could be.Yes, you are right … also pekan nenasi.
I think in the last photo the body form is more as you say ‘stout’, – do you not think so ?
And if you say it gets a nice chocolate brown, then I dont know which other paro would become that.I will put in a less perfect photo of a nagyi ‘kuantan’ just for comparison,
I am not sure why they should not be nagyi.
The colours are a bit funny, but this could be the photo. And its not a fully bright coloured male, but it could be a male with a bit undeveloped colouring yet, or the situation doesnt allow for a fully colouring male (other males?)
The one to the left is a female, the other one does not show any black white stripes really, which is what nagyi would not do. Also the male in the caudal fin has this colourless bit at the end, isnt that typical nagyi ?
Plus the pectoral fins are not long, – nagyi is also quite short, and have this black spot in them, which I think I can barely see on the photo also.
I am not very good at identifying, I often seem to get it wrong, so its just my small opinion 🙂 .. but I wouldnt be sure its not a nagyi.
Whether its a nagyi ‘kuantan’ or ‘cherating’ depends on the colour of the spots in the caudal fin. If they are clearly white its kuantan, if clearly blue its cherating. This is also often difficult to determine on photosHi – You are also most welcome to use any photos of mine, either from this forum or from my flickr account – I will send you a link.
I did the same in Denmark, and I know that its difficult to find these images of habitats, but if you make a search in google – palm oil destruction – and click on images, you get a lot. Some of these are not actually copyrighted, some allows use of their images on the websites. I used one in my presentation with clear reference to site and so forth, and a link to the actual place on the internet. Or you might contact some of the internet places, most often magasines etc.
Another thing I have noticed recently is that if you use a good satelite map ( I was looking at some maps searching for the missing airplane in Malaysia) … but if you zoome in on areas on Borneo, you suddenly notice areas where it is obvious that the forest have been destroyed and you can see how much it is in certain areas. It interesting, also a bit scary. What one can do with it I dont know, but for a personal experience its quite learning.I agree in many ways, though I understand the doubt along the way. At the moment I think there a really big ‘gap’ between the inner and outer band of spots/bands in the tail. If you look at your profile picture of your other nagyi, it certainly is broader.
But then again, perhaps we are not considering that even a small nagyi male has got to develop, – maybe it doesnt come with perfect grown up patterns right away, but develop these as it grows. And perhaps this could explain some of the doubts ?Have you got more photos of this young fish ?
Photos can play tricks on the eye sometimes.
But I can see what you mean🙂 Very nice to have these reports from you about the p.nagyi brought from Malaysia. I have myself a species of p. nagyi ‘kuantan’ – which I happened to get through my local fish shop, as wild caught nagyi two years ago. They managed to breed and I have a good many of them now. They look a lot like yours.
I also have a p. nagyi ‘cherating’ which I got from Christian Hinz who caught them himself a couple of years ago also.Hello Ivan.
Welcome to the forum, good to see you here 🙂If you look at which section this post is in its in the American section.
We have devided the forum up in sections, with a general section, a european, an asian and an american, – which should make it easier for people to find other in their near surroundings.I am a bit worried that I think we have missed out on your part of the world, – (Africa, right ? )and a bit worried you wont get someone in America to ship that far.
This is really because we do not have that many members joining from Africa, but there are a few in South Africa.
I will contact you on mail with regard to this.🙂 You are a brave man 🙂 … its very interesting. I always thought of course its possible when you are as careful as you are and think of all the complications that could happen.
But still, I also feel a litte bit like Stefanie, I would not at the moment want more fry than what I get in the normal way. But with a very rare species it could be important, so the experience you are doing is important for us all.
All the best of luck with the fry onward, hoping all continues to go well.
