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Good morning Stefanie.
🙂 A bit dramatic topic for a ‘good morning’ 🙂 .. eating ones own fry :unsure:
But interesting it is.
My experience is indeed like yours, but I have never seen it happen though.
I wonder though a bit, if its something which is more likely to be a problem when you have more than one pair in the tank. In my experience certainly tanks with more than ‘the breeding pair’ is much less likely to produce offspring. Whereas tanks with only the parent pair – though I am sure some eat their offspring, other pairs do not do it in the same degree.
My p.harveyi seems to be much less prone to this habbit, and quite often have big numbers of offspring surviving.
But your observation of the fry and their behaviour is also really interesting, because for sure the paro fry have learned to being as invisible as possible.🙂 If you ever travel to Copenhagen (not that far 🙂 ) … I have too many p. harveyi and would love to send some of these on a trip to UK. By boat would probably be possible.
I also have other species, such as p.nagyi ‘kuantan’ and p.nagyi ‘cherating’ …
Just saying 🙂 🙂 …
:blink: I hope someone else might have some input, – I must admit, I do not think it sounds possible, but I might not get the point.
🙂 no, I think that this sound not right, (although I am not sure if you are talking about something really specialized :)) .. but in my understanding once you add hard tap water the hardness will rise and this will influence not only the hardness, but the ph quite quickly.
But because you say ‘small amounts’ ? … I dont know if this is something really new and ‘clever’ :blink:hello Phil.
As Little I would like to welcome you here to the forum, and the Parosphromenus Project.
We do actually have quite a few members in USA, but I guess for you too there could be long distances between members 🙂 ..
Perhaps if you look under the section here in forum American I think there may be some more information or talk about where and who has parosphromenus, – and perhaps you can contact some of the other members via the pb system (private mail) – you will find it under the login box after you log in. Its a simple private mail system, but it does work 🙂Hello Rutilans and welcome to the Parosphromenus project.
I have moved your thread to the category Asian trade. It may not make a difference, – but the topic really belongs there 🙂
It may be easy for us europeans to think, that when you live in Singapore you are so much closer to the fish in the original biotope than us, so why not go and catch them. But I dont know if that is all that easy.
However this forum, or through our distribution email may be a good way for you to start looking for fish, and since we do have some members in your part of the world, there may be someone who knows where and how to get some.
How do you get the wild bettas ?No, Ruinemans would be better 🙂 you are right about that – they often end up in Copenhagen too, but you never know.
I will keep an eye out for any new paros in townIf in a dutch shop, theres a good chance they will appear in Denmark as well, I will certainly keep a look out for them.
Your describtion in your last post gives hope that it could be sumatranus indeed as far as I know.
I had sumatranus for a period, unfortunately no more.Do you have any idea which importer ?
Yes, that sounds right.
You can see a little bit about sp. blue line here https://parosphromenus-project.org/en/blue-line.html
The sp. blue line and the other that Peter Finke is mentioning is quite often discussed here in the forum, so I am sure you will also be able to find more on them in forum.
It was a form which at some time or maybe yet sometimes is imported in larger numbers, – and they are yet to be fully described, – thats the reason we still have to call them sp.
Unfortunately fish which are caught in Sumatra can often be mixed (from different rivers or areas) and that makes it difficult to precisely identify them. But sp. blue line or sp. sentang are really beautiful species, – but whether there is one or more sp. blue line species we dont really know yet.
Not being deissneri is not unusual at all 🙂 , in fact deissneri is unfortunately only represented now in Europe by one single pair which unfortunately isnt breeding for some reason.Hello Alexandr
And welcome to the forum.
Those are very good photos, – but may i ask – did you find out what species it is ??
You are right it is not deissneri.Thank You, Bill. From Denmark I would also like to wish everyone her a very happy New Year.
2013 has been a very interesting and good year here at the Parosphromenus Project, I think with some really good debates, on many different topics, – and its wonderful to know that theres always people here – new and old members – who take a keen interest in reading, answering and asking question.So all the best, and hope everyone gets safe into 2014. In Europe we have a good 2 hours left, I guess in America it will be a little longer, and I guess our friends in Asia will be fast asleep just now 🙂
Thats interesting.
There has to be an explanation 🙂 … but difficult to know. It could be that the nest underneath the leave is not the very best and secure nest for the male, and some fry ‘escaped’ or got lost outside his nest, and then was picked up by the female and placed in a ‘better’ cave.
Or it could be that the male has actually used this bamboo and placed eggs there, but regretted and moved to another cave, – leaving few eggs to hatch.But its really interesting that it seems to be the female caring for the eggs or larvaes. I have experienced it though, and I think others have as well, but its not very often.
And congratulations – then you have more little quindecims again ..Hi bigsheed.
You are completely right, this is neither p.deissneri or p. filamentosus. 🙂 Its amazing that lfs’s keeps on calling them wrong names 🙂This I think is in the line of p. blue line or p. sintangensis (sentang) – try look these up here under species — > other forms
Beatiful males, and good photoes, hope you will get females, –
can you get females which you are sure will belong to the same species ? from the same place ?I had betta uberis once together with p. quiendecim in a 60 liter, – and I am thinking about doing the same now with a group of linkei’s.
I have 2 breeding pairs seperated, and then the group in the 60 liter is fry of these. I want to concentrate breeding with the two pairs and not encourage offspring in the bigger tank because theres one male in there with a split tail. Cant really get him out, but would prefer not to have off spring by him.
And the uberis went well in such a big tank, – theres some areas with leaves and a bit of peat, – and they loved it.But for now, I keep the coccinas seperate, just want to get to know their temperament.
I am afraid the b.hendra is one I need to have sometime also 🙂 …
I should also, 🙂 … have facebook connection with mr. Tommy Hendra from which the fish has got its name. So …. a must in the future I think. :whistle:Hello Stefanie, – I think it is very helpful what you are writing in the thread, – about how it was possible to ‘save’ the two fish that showed so little life, – thats very very good to hear.
I hope you find out what went wrong, though I realize that can be difficult. But many things can happen during transport that can cause a too stressfull situation for the fishes, – other than cold also.
And by the way, thank you for showing those photos of the betta hendra, – wow, that is a beutiful little fish.
I just yesterday could not resist the temptation of buying 4 betta coccina when I accidentially passed them in a shop. I went out shopping for clothes, but I came back with four b.coccina.🙂 I have been looking for them for some time though, so it wasnt entirely impulsive. They are at the moment settling slowly in a small tank. My plan is to mix them into my bigger (surplus) linkei tank. I have tried this before, and it seemed to work well.
