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Thanks Paul
The credit for the photo must go to Johnny Jensen (www.jjphoto.dk) ..Marius, regarding spawning I really found that these fish are very eager to spawn, – a small tank with a little spagnum, some cover plants, a few oak-leaves and a cave … 🙂
All the best luck with themThats an interesting question, Patrick.
Again, lets agree, that we are not discussing if one way is more correct than the other, – but its interesting to learn about the behaviour of paros.
Most fish as I see it are territorial mainly within their own species, – that is actually also true of parosphromenus.
My only ‘mixed’ aquarium with paros is a 60 liter with boraras, 8 paro males and 1 betta albimarginata, – 🙂
What I can see, which was a surprise to me, is that these Paros are quite a bit more active and lively than the ones I keep in small breeding tanks. They go eagerly around in the whole tank, they are first on the food, just like any other fishes. They compete with each other for food and are not hiding at all. They will establish a certain hieraki within their own flock, so there are males that are more dominant than others.
The ‘tricky’ part for me with a big tank like this, is that I provide a lot of plants and hiding spots for the paros, and I think thats important for them to regulate also their own agression towards each other, – but this also means that I have very little posibility to actually follow if everything is fine or not, – I can loose track of them in such a big tank.But this of course is not the setup you are asking about. I would hesitate to have more agressive species with the paroes, – they might be able to adapt in some way, but not actually become a dominant fish then, – I would think they would have to accept the role of being subdominant to the more agressive species ?
Sissimor – glad to hear that.
With coryes, – somehow I just thought that it was a very different type of tank they would need, it just seemed a strange companion to me :).. but I am also not saying that you must not, or cannot.
Arent there very different needs, in terms of watermovement, space, sandy bottoms and what about food, – can they compete with each other and so on ? And I guess I also thought coryes have quite a different temperament from paros ?
Normally I use to keep species from different continents, or habitats apart – just because thats my personal preference. In nature you find paros living in same biotope with a number of other fish, so of course they can also thrive with that.I am very sorry to hear that, – and hope of course that you will indeed stay on.
It is to me a complicated question and although I do understand and share the thoughts written above by Peter, I do not see things completely the same way. Understanding the situation regarding Parosphromenus and the threathened status is of course very important, – and I am sure all who have got a deeper interest in these fish are aware of this.
I am sure that is how you came to find your way to this homepage in the first place. 🙂And we all try to breed for sure. But we still have fish that are either surplus, or bought in shops with all same sex or something, – and f.inst. in Denmark sometimes in the shops we even get Parosphromenus which are breed in captivity and sold. This is a fact.
And I think that we need to also discuss how to best keep these fish. For me is it also a matter of loving these tiny fishes. I will breed them if possible, but I will also ‘keep’ those that I have then bred in the best possible setup.
Perhaps you could think of other companions than coryes 🙂 I agree to that, but I am sure you might have been aware of that too. Sometimes things are just not possible in the ideal way.
For myself I have learned over the years, that one way I thought was right, now seems less right, – I find actually that my paros thrive in conditions that I have previously not thought would be good, – such as f.example a little bit of current seems to do them good, as well as small companion fish.Of course we should keep focus on the important things, but I personally also hope that we can continue to learn from different questions and discussions and be open to this.
Perhaps light is about warmth … when you have moina you can see them gather very much just below the lamp, but this is of course also where the water is warmest…
or maybe it is just a reflex just as artemia nauplia has, to move in the direction of the light.
I am pretty sure it has not got much to do with being able to see things somehow.Interesting that you are experimenting a bit with it
I am sorry, – I am getting things a bit mixed up, I apologize 😉 -its a bit confusing what I wrote. I meant that 27 liters is a good size for a smaller group of paros or a pair.
But I am not sure its an ideal size if you also want to have boraras in that tank, it could be bigger then – though I think it is possible.
The size of your tank, 30x30x30 is a good size though, and I would think it is possible to have maybe 8-10 boraras, if you choose that.But again, – here I would say, in the smaller tanks, if you keep boraras with the paros, you will not be succesful breeding the paros, – because the paros will not have the quietness they for breeding, and even if there were any fry they would be eaten by the boraras.
And even if you did not want to breed them, I would say having boraras in smaller tanks is less optional, – even they are small, they like a certain space to swim.I often find that gravel is a big problem in changing water parameter, – some gravels might have a big influence in drawing up parameters such as ph-value.
No, 00 is not accepted, I know, but wrong dates are :blink: –
But it of course still optional, you do not have toUnfortunately it is not possible to change this setting, – the only alternative is to use the place where you can write personal text for this information.
Or you can do as I did 😉 – by mistake I turned the dates around, so it showed the wrong date but the rigth year ..Hi Stefanie
I think the reason we are always talking about one pair in one tank, is because of course it is always recommendable to try to breed the paros that we have. We encourage people to try to breed them, because they are rare and special – and they often thrive really good in that way – one pair together.
And also because, for most people, if they think that it is possible to have licorice gouramies in tanks with other fish they will very often be dissappointed and it will often not be successfull, because it needs to be a speciel kind of set up, and most people will not provide that.
But I think, that of course it is possible, and sometimes really a very good idea. In your case, the 27 liter is ideal for a pair or a smaller group. My experience is that they can feel very comfortable with small tank mates such as boraras.
Because I have quite a lot of fry, and in some cases too many of one sex (at the moment I have 10 p. harveyi males and 2 females + some unidentified young ones) – and I have a big 60 liter in which I have some of the males together with boraras. In this tank I have filter and some current, and a lot of plants. I actually think that I see these fish much more than some of the ones that are in smaller one-pair-tanks. So it is quite possible.
I keep the same waterparameters in this tank though, so ph 5.0 and very soft. The plants here can really mostly be javamos and javafern.
In other tanks I also have sometimes smaller groups of paroes together, – and sometimes they also breed in those tanks. Possibly not if there are boraras though, but if only one species of paroes, they might.
A big tank, though, 180 liter, I think is too big. First of all you would need to fill it up with water which is the right parameters, and that is quite a lot. And if your paroes dont feel ‘safe’, they will hide and in such a big tank you might never see them at all, they might hide.
I think its a question of that if we have the opportunity to breed, we should try. But that doesnt mean that its not possible in other ways, its just not so easy.
You can see a thread with a big tank with paros here https://parosphromenus-project.org/en/forum/26-Pictures/468-Toms-Bucket-Of-Mud—Paro-sp-sentang.htmlHello Marius.
I made a mistake thinking you might be able to find linkei in Berlin, – but I hope somehow we can find a way to get some fish for you to Berlin 🙂 it should not be impossible.That sounds really good.
I would like to share one experience with you here regarding keeping moina which I has recently helped me overcome my ‘moina’ crisis.
A few years ago I always had moina with success, – then I moved flat and didnt have enough space for the big container I used. But everytime I set up another culture in the new flat they simply did not live more than a little over a week, two weeks and I didnt understand at all.
Now I tried again, and asked the person who gave the culture to me, to give me any advice she could – one of them was to always keep a lid on the container (or she said the surface would become too cold). This was the only thing I could see had been a difference in what I had done, because in the new flat I only had space for small containers and I had actually not had a lid on it. I always had before, because I kept the cultures in an old tank with light armatur on it.
Now I have, and I am amazed to see that my cultures thrive just as they used to in the ‘good old days’. So my advice is : always remember a lid and good lightning above to keep it warm.I have used vinegar eels before, harvesting them in the way Peter describes, – its not so difficult actually.
I use this bottle
Its an old dressing bottle 🙂
I use some old filter material to put in – not cotton-wool, you have to make sure its not too dense so that the eels cannot move through it. But still dense though, as you wish to keep the vinegar seperate from the water. I suppose (I have not yet tried that) but in fact you might be able to use soft water so as not to introduce hard water to any tank you feed. Why the water keeps seperate from the vineager I dont understand, but it seems so. I have sometimes tested the taste, because I worried (what you dont do for the fishes :woohoo: ) but it does not taste of vineager.
If you have a good culture of eels, they sure will crawl up in thousands …
You dont actually have to have more than maybe 3-4 cm of water, its easyer to draw them up with a pipette if theres less water. And you can refill with water.The paramecium I feed directly, – those I feed with coffee cream, a drop a day for a glas
