[helene schoubye]

Yes, I thought it was much nicer to have them directly show. I will make some guideline to how you upload video’es, it was a bit difficult, but in fact quite easy – when I found out

I really find your way of having a little circulation in the tank interesting, and as I said, – your fish look really happy, and much more lively in a way. I quess its possible to arrange a tank, so that you have circulation, but still areas with very low or no circulation, – which may make it possible for breeding as well.

I have a tank with 6 paroes that I bought not long ago. I have had them in a 30 liter tank with no circulatio, and very low light. I did not see them often. Then one week ago I noticed they had odinium. So in order to treat this I gave some medication, but I also put in a heater and in order to see if they got better I put on stronger light.
Luckily they have totally recovered, – and maybe thats why they are more happy now, – but certainly the higher temperature and the stronger light does not make them hide more, – on the contrary, – they come to the front a lot more now.

I am really thinking seriously about changing my usual way of ‘small, dark, non circulation’ tanks, – so all inspiration is welcome.

[helene schoubye]

Hi, – please send the photo to

postmaster@parosphromenus-project.org

[helene schoubye]

I have linkei fry as well, and with 5 offsprings I have almost 50:50 (well, with 5 I guess it cant be 50:50 🙂 ) … but I have both females and males in this little group.
But I cant help thinking about that when I have bought paros in shops, quite often I get far too many males, – and maybe that could be because these fish have been bred somewhere and having the same problems as you.
At least two times have I bought at least 10-15 fish, and ending up with only one or two females..

[helene schoubye]

I have most often used small red cherry shrimps in my parosphromenus tanks, – mostly because I am sure they provide a little bit
of extra live food, and I have had parosphromenus fry grow up alongside the shrimps.
But of course in intensive breeding I might not have them.
But I have never ever seen any kind of ‘problematic’ behaviour between fish and fry, they seem to live fine together.

[helene schoubye]

From my experience the male will eventually learn it. I have had the same with one male, – I think it mainly happened because he was unable to get the eggs to sit in the bubblenest, – so they kept falling to the floor of the cave.
When the eggs fall out like this, – I suppose they are nothing worth really, – so it makes sense that the male eats them instead. That way the nourishment in the eggs are not wasted.

My male eventually learned and got quite a lot of fry.

[helene schoubye]

Thank you Martin, what a good idea to introduce ourselves, – maybe we should have an introduction sektion 🙂 ..
I really like your setup, and think its good to see how others manage to make setups, – with parosphromenus I find that one ends up very quickly wanting many many tanks, – and its probably very different how we all do.

Here is a picture of my ‘setup’ – some of it, rather, since I also have a few bigger tanks around in the house, – one with a few linkei offspring.

Its not the best photo though, but still.

Mine is all made of wood, – with the help of a friend.

[helene schoubye]

I am thinking the same, – I also dont use any tecnik but sometimes wonder if it would be better.
And when I look at Lisbets tanks in the video in the thread here https://parosphromenus-project.org/en/forum/9-Trade/11-P-ornaticauda-in-German-trade.html then it seems to me that the paros actually look more happy.
But I wonder about breeding and developing of eggs.

But I think it would also be very interesting to hear what others have tried.

[helene schoubye]

I am wondering too, – I have tried several different ways, – but mainly now also keep them in 12 liter tanks, one pair.
And with these I have to admit :blush: that the succesfull ones are the ‘old’ and sometimes not so perfectly clean tanks.
It seems to me that some pairs need a lot of time, with several attempts, and then I leave them to do that, and in time the tanks become full of javemoss and spagnum / leaves that are decomposing. But I also think that this actually is what makes it possible for any tiny fry to survive, even when I havent seen the eggs at all.
This happened with my parvulus, which I considered the most difficult species I have yet had, and I didnt really think they would succeed. But I had one pair that seemed very harmonious and they obviously had nests and eggs, because sometimes the male dissappeared for longer periods. The water in this tank is not even all that ‘low ph’ – just around 6.5. But I have now seen two small fishes, of clearly different ages, – so something is going well in there.
The same happened with a pair of linkei’s.
But I have also had successfull breedings in tanks with several fish, – small ‘flocks’ of maybe 6-8 fish, but of course with many caves and hiding spots.

BUT – this way you never get a big bunch of fryes, you get one and two, and maybe more, but not many. And for this reason I sometimes wonder if it would be worth while to try the more intensive breeding. I think if a pair is ‘ready’, it might succeed, but sometimes they just arent, and you end up waiting for months where nothing is happening.

[helene schoubye]

I will post my only image of this species that Peter is mentioning, – and I think maybe it is I who has described it as different from Bintan, –
If so, I must say, I am not sure, – my experience with Bintan is not so big, – so it might be a bad describtion.
My fish, which has been bought a little time ago, was called ‘Deissneri’ – wildcaught from Bangka. They are not Deissneri as I know them ..
In this picture they do look a lot like ones I have had before (sentang, sp.bintan) but I still think they have a more robust feeling about them, – less slim looking, – but I am very unsure..
So here’s the image, maybe it can be a help for more experienced people

[helene schoubye]

So I have been in the shop, and the fish were doubtful, – and condition not so good as expected. So no new fish bought this time.

[helene schoubye]

I can tell you that I just today found out that there is a shop in Copenhagen offering for sale : Ornaticauda and another species which they call ‘Deissneri Bangka’ – saying it is a wild caught fish from the area of Bangka.
They had the same – I assume – parosphromenus a couple of months ago, – its certainly not the ‘lancet-tail’ deissneri. I bought 5 fish then, – its more like bintan, but it is, I have to admit, I think a bit unusual, its seems to me to be different from the blue line types I have seen, or the supposed ‘sentang’ when I had those. Unfortunately I havent got any good photoes taken yet. Heres a very dark image, that I have tryed to lighten up.

But it really makes me curious that its wildcaught from Bangka.

This shop is usually really reliable. I have bought ornaticauda and parvulus there before, very good fish. Here is a link to the shop, – this is the link to the shop http://www.Neonfisken.dk

This is the link to the shops fish list

I will be going there tomorrow to see what it is

[helene schoubye]

I find it still, even after several years of having had licorice gouramies, – that it is very few people that actually will dedicate themselves to keeping them for longer periods, – there have been a few that has tried, but only for shorter times, and then gave it up again.
So as it is now, in Denmark, – there are very few people, and I find that I have to turn to Germany or Norway, where there seems to be more people just now who are interested.
So my ‘friends’ in the parosphromenus schene are more than 100 km away in most cases.

[helene schoubye]

I have recently found some P. Ornaticauda in a shop in Copenhagen, – this shop has in the last year had several species, – such as Parvulus, Ornaticauda and a ‘wild caught’ species from Bangka (called deissneri in the shop)
They are imported from an importer in Holland..

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