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Hi there.
In my experience it is not ‘common’ for paros to loose their clucthes of eggs, and its not a particular feature with certain species. If it happens, there could be many reasons why, – main thing the composition of the water. Also, leaving a cave is not a thing which could be more connected to one species than the other.
In my experience p. parvulus for example perhaps could even be one of the species which stays very much in the cave once they have taken one. Male paros are really excellent parents in most cases, staying paitiently with the eggs untill they hatch and staying patiently with the small fry untill these become too eager free swimming and leave the cave. At that point, – there nothing even a good parent fish can do, – the fry leave the cave, and they are pretty vulnerable if there are any other fish in the tank, sometimes even just the other parent is a threat.
So no matter what species you may be having, the idea of darkening the tank, to me is not really that helpful. But of course, – with a paro tank you would always be talking about a rather dark tank, with little light, and perhaps a lot of floating plants which would hinder light. And that is definitely a good thing, – small fry needs a good protecting for sure.And just for the record, – I understand that your username is just a username 🙂 ..
Keep asking questions about all the things which may be new to you, – this is how we learn things.Its seems you live in America, – I find it interesting if you do indeed have someone over there who can supply parvulus, – even if it may be true it can be a challenging species (mainly in terms of being successfull with the breeding, eggs needs really lower ph than other species) – but its interesting if someone does have parvulus in US. I know that a user here, Ted, used to have it, but then it dissappeared, – and we tried to send some when Bill little was here in Hamburg, – I am not sure we succeeded. But I know another person in US who wanted very much to aquire parvulus, (David Jones) – so even if you decide to wait a little, its really valuable information, and I would like to follow it a bit if possible. It must somehow be possible to get in contact with the breeder you are mentioning, ? it doesnt seem one I know. You can write me a private message if you like regarding name and perhaps an email. I find it really interesting 🙂
🙂 .. correction, – I actually have found the person you are mentioning, – and she is also a member of P-P.
Hello Gianne00
Welcome to forum, – as this is your first post, it had to be approved by an admin,- this is now done 🙂
Regarding your questions, – I will leave that more to others who are experienced with rain water, I am personally not that.
But I can say that I keep my paros at room temperature, and although a bit higher perhaps, 22-23, I dont think temperatures in that range is a problem for spawning with paros. Even in those places in nature where the temperature is high, in the lower regions of the water the temperature may be cooler than that, and paros are not excatly living in the surface of the water where the temperature is higher.Hi Ghia, welcome to the forum, – I just approved your post.
All new users always has to have the first post approved, – so if you did not understand what happened to your post, thats why..
🙂Kind regards Helene
That is very good news, Fred. Parvulus is one of the species which I found a little bit harder than other species.
Often you dont get very big numbers of fry, – but theres probably more than 3 🙂
Well done and congratulations.
Just one word of – maybe not advice, – but just my experience. Parvulus fry I leave in the tank with the parents as long as possible. A few times I have had problems trying to seperate fry perhaps too young. I think perhaps it could be because they are more vulnerable to any kind of change in water conditions, at least I have had reactions of odinium when seperating too early. They can easily stay in the parent tank for very long.On my front, I am happy to report that one of my anjunganensis couple, which are actually probably five years old now have just given me at least 3 young fry. I have been waiting for that for quite a while, so that is also good news for me.
Hello Eddy and welcome to the forum.
To be more certain regarding the species, I think we would need a bit better photo. But the photo is good enough to say something, which you may already have seen yourself too.
I would say, it would be near to rubrimontis.
But as I understand it also, – there are species which in reality is can be really hard to differentiate between, – this would be rubrimontis, slfredi, tweediei …
This is why perhaps a better photo would be helpful, – however to me it looks rubrimontis-like..What was the ‘trade’ describtion for it?
Hello Frederik.
I am very pleased to hear that you have got fry of particularly this species, – that is very good. Glad to see they are doing well.
I kept 3 pairs, but since I send those off to you, my own has had no fry. They seem to have eggs, but either fry gets eaten before I react (though I have tried to take away the female just after seeing eggs) or something else is happening, – at least I have seen no fry. And its good that we are more people having this fine species.
I know that Rafael also has them 🙂 ..I would like to help with the video if I can, – but I see no link anywhere in your post. How did you try to upload it ?
It needs to be online somewhere in order to be put in a post, you cannot upload it directly from your computer same way as photos.
Thanks, Bernd, – it is very useful with photos of where you found these black worms, –
It is quite surprising that there are still some to be found this time of the year. I heard it will be very cold now, so perhaps it will not last for many days more.Hello prast.
Your photos does not show any parosphromenus, – so this forum is probably not the best place to ask, since we know mostly things about parosphromenus.
The fish in your photo looks to me like trichopsis vittatusThats great to hear, – congratulation.
I have collected all the photos from you and Zahar, and uploaded these in a pdf-file under articles. (only in english yet) … you can find it here https://parosphromenus-project.org/en/articles/fry-development-images-of-different-stages.html
Hi Dorothee.
I dont actually think theres any sign of odinium. The times I have seen it, one of the ways I can tell is that you can see tiny tiny nodules (what to call them ? ), – grains – on the fins, and I dont see that on your fish.
I agree, the coulours are a bit ‘palish’ – I wouldnt either say it was because of being uncomfortable with other fish, or as you say ‘in disquise’.
Perhaps I would more think of water quality, – even I can see you have some things contributing to the humic substances, I think it seems fairly clear water. Perhaps something is needed in terms of humic substances, I think there are things in that which could really affect their skin condition if too little.Hello and welcome to the forum, Amit.
I understand your problem, – it can be difficult with young fish to determine which female is the right one, – and I would say that there is a good chance that any female will do :).
There could be also the situation that the reason you are not really seing any preferred female is that they have perhaps not quite reached the grown up mature state as the male.
I am sure you can choose any female, and after a little while the pair will breed together. It may take a little while, especially if the female is very young and perhaps only just reaching maturity.Or you could wait a little bit, and watch the fish careful and over some days see if the male seem to be more attracted to one female than the others. The problem then is to catch this precise female, – and once scared and on the run … :unsure: its so difficult.
I can do it, but I have many years of practice, and I have the fish in small tanks. I will cheat them and move in very slowly when the one I want is swimming happily by the front glas 🙂 … but I know this is not always possible.So if you feel its easier, dont hesitate to take any female, – eventually they will ‘bond’, they are not particular about partners, although of course sometimes you do get a harmonious couple that it is a pity to seperate.
Congratulations, Rafael, – thats great to hear that they have spawned.
My answer to your question is another question: Why do you not think about moving the parents ??
I never move the fry, – I know you can do it, but I think it takes some practice and skill. At whatever stage the egggs or fry are very vulnerable to change in water, or to movements. I imagine it is really difficult to move the tubes or caves without eggs or fry slipping out.
I would always move the parents. To catch the female – with a little practice and a little patience should not be too difficult. I would catch her out first. Leave the male to guard the nest and when all fry has left move the male.
If you worry about moving and catching, leave both parents and keep an eye on when the fry is beginning to leave the cave. And then just catch the parents. Even if you create a turmoil catching, the fry will just seek cover somewhere, – they will survive.That is my advice anyway, dont move the fry, move the parents.
