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If it makes you feel better, the first group of Paro’s I bought, supposed to be tweediei, was actually Betta imbellis.
They are nice bettas though, mine are finally fully colored and flaring at each other. They are nicer in person than most online photo’s I’ve seen make them look.
Thank you for sharing these! This is exactly what my new fish look like, I was pretty sure they had too much red on the dorsal to be ornaticauda but they didn’t look exactly like the adult male on the page for parvulus. Mine look just like the first photo you have of this male.
These have quite a bit of red on their dorsal and caudal, so more than likely parvulus probably. They have a lot of color for how small they are.
I have learned that around here you often won’t get the Paro you were looking for, but, that’s fine as I didn’t have these ones anyways. 🙂
Well, these must be fairly sturdy fish. When I released them from the bag they came in, the one was leaning to one side and not swimming, more floating. But, interestingly they’re all still alive today and the one that was listing to one side is at least able to stay upright, though I haven’t seen it try to eat. Looks better than yesterday though, so perhaps I will have fish to photograph after all!
I have never ordered from them, there are sellers on aquabid and ebay who usually have them and that is where I’ve gotten mine from in the past. Are you trying to obtain moina?
Thank you for the responses! They have given me some ideas to adapt to my own setups. A drip system of some kind would definitely work better than what I’m currently using. Would certainly make water changes more pleasant!
I would say that the large male in the tank has selected one of the pottery as a cave, but the big female prefers under the sponge filter. He tried to chase her to it, but she retreats right back under the sponge filter despite coloring up really dark. I will add a few more caves in hopes that they agree on one.. :dry:
My air flow is probably still too fast. I have slowed it down since that last photo, it is probably 2 bubbles per second, but still a bit too fast. I had lowered it down to around one bubble or so per second, but then I got home from work and somehow it was no longer bubbling at all. I probably need to get a better valve, this one was very cheap and it seems to go from that amount right to off. I did move the sponge filter to a far end, so more of the water is undisturbed.
Helene! I love how dense those plants are! How you would ever find your fish in there I don’t know, but I would think they like it. Hopefully I get some plants that like the tanks, more trial and error I suppose. 🙂
[quote=”AlmightyJoshaeus” post=2492]Decided to just combine these two questions into one post for convienience…anyhow, I will start with pricing.
Currently, setting up even a 5 gallon licorice gourami tank would require the following expenditures:
50 gms artemia (brine shrimp) cysts – U.S $12.50 (all figures are in U.S dollars)
Desk lamp to heat and brighten artemia container – $ 5 or less
Lid: $23
Heaters: $14.56
Power strip: $7.35
Container for acidic water: ? ($10 maybe?)
The gouramis: $44 (for four P. linkei from wetspot)Anyhow, does anyone have any ideas hoe I can reduce these prices? At current moment starting a licorice gourami setup looks as if it will cost well over a hundred U.S dollars and I’d like to see if I can reduce this by even a little bit.
Now for my second question…can rainwater be used for licorice gouramis?[/quote]
There are always different ways to do things more cheaply, the results just may not be as attractive. 😉
A semi-translucent plastic bin in a 5 gallon size can be had for around $5. It won’t be clear like aquarium glass, but it would be cheap. You can buy a small piece of screen mesh intended for the repair of window screens and cut it to fit the lid. There are larger spaced hardware mesh as well that would suit the purpose so long as your light wasn’t sitting directly on it. If you wanted to stick with glass aquariums, then the 10 gallon tank is almost always the cheapest along with the accessories for it which is why I have mostly ten gallon tanks. I believe the glass lid for the ten gallon tank is also cheaper than what you expected to pay. You can also check out stores like Lowe’s or Home Depot. They probably sell small thin pieces of glass for less than what you were expecting to pay for a lid.
I use 5 gallon buckets for my water, about $3 each.I like to find cheaper ways to do things, but, some costs are unavoidable with any new aquarium setup. I ended up spending $170 on a RO/DI unit because rain is unpredictable some times of the year and I didn’t want to be stuck not able to do a needed water change. Most of my lids I either made or found for cheap or free. Check places like craigslist and you may find a whole setup for cheaper than putting one together yourself.
Just thought I would let everyone know that Wetspot just added Parosphromenus nagyi to the list though now they seem to be out of filamentosa.
[quote=”jalmj” post=2488]Jennifer, your tanks look pretty enough to me. I am so jealous that you have conditioned your fish into nuptial colours so quickly. Well done :cheer:[/quote]
Thank you, they aren’t quite colored fully yet. But at least they’re a lot closer than they were! It’s nice to see them trying to get into color. The male will get really dark for a few seconds, and then lighten right back up like he doesn’t quite have it figured out yet.
Interesting.. There’s an online store I order from that also has P deissneri listed recently.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=747+870+1003&pcatid=1003The colors listed are the same, but the photo is either a young one or a female.
Wonder what that one really is too?
I can’t speak for all of them, but my 6 are actually usually out where I can see them. A noise like a door shutting will startle them, but otherwise they are out in the open area of the tank. But, the tank has a lot of duckweed, so they may not feel like they are out in the open. The only time this has changed with mine is when I move them to a new tank. Then they hide for a week or so before they are back out.
[quote=”Peter Finke” post=2474]As it seems, you may have got a variant of P. nagyi. I already thought so (but remained silent about it) seeing picture 2450. Now, the male does not show really the typical courtship colours, but somewhat getting in that direction.
There are some variants of nagyi living at the ast coast of western Malaysia arould Kuantan, Cherating and Pekan Nenas. It’s really a widespread location and the variants differ in many respects. To determine your fish more exactly, we need better photos. But one thing is typical: The white band in the caudal fin. It’s typical for some variants of nagyi around Kuantan. However, it’s not the typical Kuantan, since they have definitely a shorter caudal fin. Maybe it’s a Pekan Nenas or Chukai-variant.[/quote]
His body was even darker before I scared them when I went to get my camera. I’ll have to just make a practice of bringing the camera with me when I go out to check on them so that I don’t startle them. It would be really nice if they were P. nagyi. It was just nice to see them not plain striped! I still have the group of 6 together, but, at least now I can see those two are a pair and move the others. I will try for better photos next time he is displaying.
So excited! The larger one I assumed was female and this male I posted a photo of previously were showing courtship behavior. Her body was really darkened, couldn’t see the stripes anymore and the male was following her all over the tank, also really darkened. I couldn’t get a photo of her as I spooked her when I went back to get my camera.
I only got a couple poor photos of him, but, then they were courting again behind one of the pots so I decided to just leave them alone. Sorry the photos are so terrible, I really wanted a clear photo of him, but, also didn’t want to interrupt.
Thank you for sharing! There is a test kit sold that measures ammonia and ammonium separately so you can see whether a tank has the more harmful kind or the less harmful kind. I may just have to pick one of those up to help me decide better what to do.
As it stands, because the tanks never seem to fully cycle for me below ph 6, I have been doing the large regular water changes approach. Usually I change 150-200% of the water every week which seems like a lot when it is all being prepped several days in advance in 5 gallon buckets. I usually have 8 of these 5 gallon buckets with water in it at various stages of soaking with peat.
Now, at 6.4 pH, the tanks do cycle which is what the Betta imbellis are at now.
I do agree that it is quite the controversial topic. But, I think we can probably share differing opinions on here without it causing too much issue. Obviously your fish are doing well, spawning, young are hatching and then growing up; certainly wouldn’t be the case if what you were doing wasn’t right for your fish. I hope more on here will share their methods or even what their test results are in their low ph tanks. I don’t think you can compare them to regular tanks and apply the same method, but I may be wrong.
[quote=”Peter Finke” post=2464]
Anyway, we have tweediei now in trade, and Armin is to be praised that he told us this news. Maybe, the information from the U.S. was true also, but the fish seem to be sold out. Or is there anybody who bought them and could tell us: tweediei or not?[/quote]I had purchased them, but of course mine turned out to be what we think is Betta imbellis. I found someone else through Facebook who got some as well, this weekend I plan to see them and see if they got Betta’s too. It sounds like they did get bettas though, so not too hopeful.
