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Hi all,
I was indeed wondering if it was an overlooked anatomical feature that may aid us in the correct identification of types? Would be helpful to hear of other species which show this feature I think, unless of course it is common to all species though maybe not often seen
Hi Lindy
The more I look at yours, the less I am convinced we have the exact same fish. I know we both had them from Colin , but I think we bought them a week or so apart so maybe they were a different batch. Mine have nowhere near as much blue as yours even when flaring.
There is a post in this thread Link
Yours look very similar indeed to P sp dua.
Well done on the successful breeding!
Well it’s been 6 months and all the juveniles have grown up pretty much, though I still have no idea which species they are, so have not bothered trying to breed them.
As they have grown, I have noticed the caudal fin is definitely more lanceloate than many other Parosphromenus species except phoenicurus.a few recent pics…
Hi Peter, unfortunately I have never seen the book, but I just thought it strange there is so little information available compared to almost every other species. The one in this sites species description is the only one I have seen. Its hard to tell if the photo shows the species in its normal coloration or if stressed hence paler than usual colours, a broader set of photos for ID would certainly help I think.
It would seem that this species really is under represented by breeders so if by chance someone came across them somewhere, then having the tools available to propely Id would be of great help.
I might have to buy that book at some point though!Regards
Great report. I have heard of the sedili site being cited as locale for P. Alfredi, but curious as to how far the site extends? Looking on google maps the sedili watershed area is vast, so there is an awful lot of ground to cover to get an accurate status of this species.
Would be interesting to viisit site as water level drops, when would you recommend visiting?Not a bad idea having a list of European Importers, maybe that should be on this site somewhere. Regarding European imports, I don’t think you need any kind of licence, as that would be covered by European trade agreement. If its already ben legally imported, then moving them around the Eurozone should be hassle and licence free.
Hi Peter
a great response, and you are correct in pointing out that we should be vigilant in gaining collection localities for the proper segregation of types. Unfortunately even the importer in my case will not disclose exporter so I cannot contact directly. I am not happy about this situation really, but not much I can do until both importers and exporters take the differentiation of types more seriously, as to them it really doesn’t matter too much what they are called.
I also bought 10 of those same fish as David Strickland. From what I can gather they come from Jambi province in Sumatra, somit would seem reasonable to refer to them as P. ‘Jambi’
Hello Peter
thank you for such a detailed reply, although I still cannot find Lake Rasau on any map, there are a number of unmarked blackwater lakes in the area you mentioned on Google Earth, so I am guessing probably one of those.
I think I may have bought one of these other “Jambi” species as have great problems identifying them. If you have time, maybe you could have a look at the images posted by Borneo Pisciculture listed and sold as P. gunawani. If you look at August 12th post here and tell me what you think.
Many thanks
Rod
Sorry Bernd I must have misunderstood
Thanks for your help and extra information. Especially I didnt realise alfredi were found in clearwater streams.
Hi Bernd
so you are saying I shouldn’t collect my own fish and bring them home? I thought this was best practice.
Thanks Peter
All your tips should come in useful.
I was hoping to visit collection spots along the east coast, and the east coast wet season only begins in November and goes through until March, so water levels should be at their lowest at the end of October beginning of November, so I was hoping this would have made things easier in relation to catching some fish.
The west coast monsoon is opposite as wet season finishes in November so water levels will be at their highest.One question I have is how to bring back any fish? Is this done by export licence? I assume Germany and the UK would have similar regulations both being EU?
Rod
I think you are right to my thinking Helene. Without knowing exact locality they should be same as holotype, which in this case is ‘Kuantan’ anyway. So they are P. nagyi ‘Kuantan’.
It always seems to be a problem in UK shipments, about 75% males usually. I think I have maybe 3 females.
