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Dear Bill, Dear Maurice,
Thank you for the congratulations 🙂 I was myself surprised how quickly they accepted it als I had expected them to have me reedit parts of it.
yes, it will only be available in German in the magazine but I have been thinking about this lately. Since I am about to write my final exams for grammar school, I will soon have a bit more time off before university starts in September so I thought about translating the article into English. Of course, it will not meet the level of sophistication you guys from the US or UK are going to be used to but It might give a good overview and insight to the original article. Also, I have to doublecheck with the publisher if I am allowed to do that…Greetings Rafael
Hey,
This sounds amazing. Yes, they will keep spawning for some time and some should survive. If you want to dramatically increase your “output” you can at some point after a few more spawnings catch the adults out if their present tank and put them into your new one. Then, many of the fry that would have been eaten by the adults would survive. It of course depends on your aims and the behaviour of your linkei but mine almost never let any youngsters come through without separation. Thats of course also related to the tank stze…
Hi everyone,
I find this conversation really interesting and informative. I remember having conducted similar water testing at school some years ago. We would look at different tapwater types from different spots around the city and it was rather shocking to see how many germs can be found there. However, it never came to my mind to do this with my tanks. I will have a chat with my biology teacher to see if he could give me the formula and ingredients with such we produced our own test sets as they worked very well. I think this might be a even cheaper way of conducting su h testings and I would love to see how my tank behaves.
I ‘ll keep you posted on the recepie
Hi,
this Sounds Great and I wish you all the best for your future breeding efforts. Sadly, I had to make the same experience that only very few of the linkei offspring survives. I think since the adult fish are getting larger than in other species, they might be eating even larger juveniles that would otherways already be safe.
However, large tanks and many hiding spots as well as sufficient feeding will help maximize the chances of the babies.Hi Gianne,
This is really sad and I can very well understand why you are depressed. But I think all of us must earlier or later learn how different paros are from what we are actually used to when it comes to any kind of special treatment/feeding or whatever.
I personally don’t know what was in your medication that made them die but maybe there are some other people who have any ideas.
In general, I think your deworming day is of no good for the paros. First of all, I would not really consider blackworms an appropriate food for paros especially if they are from a local shop. These life foods are usually in no good conditions which makes them vauable in means of nutrients for the fish. They can actually starve to death because they dont get enouch nutriens out of these worms. Something similar seems to be known from too old and non enriched Brine shrimp larvae.
Besides this, if you provide the necessarily low ph and the water clean, there will be almost no germs certainly including these special worms you fear.
It is a part of the message of the paroproject that for actual aquaristics, almost none of the medications, chamicals etc. that we like so much to throw in our tanks are needed, some are even leading to fatal events.
Personally, I am convinced that neither of our fish need external chemistry-support unless they show real signs of uneasieness and are visibly suffering. This is of course a question of observation and feeling in your belly what your animals need. No fish that is kept with appropriate kind and amount of food and in fresh water with the needed ph, EC etc. is in need if such things since if else, they would not survive in nature.
My advise would be:
Keep everything running as before since they have apparently liked it very much. Stop feeding bought livefoods and blackworms. In the summer, The best imaginable food source are black mosquito larvae which you can easily grow in almost any backyard in a pot of water and hay. In winter, mine usually live on microworms and Brine shrimp naupliae…Greetings Rafael
Hi,
wow these pictures are beautiful! What setup did you take them with? (Cam/objective…)
I think the last picture shows a female. I had similar worries with my tweediei but finally, two of my three prooved to be females… However, they still look rather young…
Here you can see some better pictures of the same form…
https://parosphromenus-project.org/de/forum-4/17-Pictures/1686-p-tweediei-ruinemans-2013-fry.html
Although the second one is a really long thread, it is defenitely worth a read… You get quite a good idea of the problems we are facing here…
Hi, welcome to the forum!
This male looks a bit like my P.tweediei spec. Ruinemans… However, we are not sure which exact species mine are either. Can you find out what location they were caught at?
Despite this first feeling that they might be related to mine, we should wait for the specialists to give their opinion…
Greetings Rafael
Hi Frederik,
yes he is beautiful!!!
I now have one mae and two females since some of the really small ones have died soon after I got them from Helene. I think they were weakened and stressed from the transport. But now I also have many many youngsters. Some are showing some coloration and they start quarreling…
Greetings Rafael
Hi Folks,
great to hear this news, Frederik!
as Helene mentioned, I am the third person who has these “tweediei”. I really love them! adly though, some of my initial stock has died so I am left with one male and two females but these do breed! I even seperated one of the nests soon after hatching so I’m currently raising several youngsters. It seems however, that the new plants I have added from one of my other tanks do their job well and some babyfishes even grow in the same tank with the adults. I am surprised how quickly the seperated ones grow despite being fed mostly with artemia naupliae due to the wintery temperatures…
I am really much looking forwards to soon spread some of my offspring to other breeders! This species, whatever its correct name, deserves to be cared for!!!
Btw: what camerasetup do you use for your pictures, frederik?
Ooops, I Should not always hurry so much when reading…
Somehow i missed out the brackers After octopi… and made the wrong assumption.
Hi, great to meet you!
To upload pictures, you have to press the “add file”-button and then select the picture you want to share with us.
I would love to see the octopus!
It would also be amazing if you could add some pictures of your “deissneris”, especially a male on display. However, we are almost certain that these will be some other species – which one we can tell only when you show us pictures with clear coloration…
Do you remember where you have gotten the paros from? The exact source and maybe even some location description could defenitely help us a lot.It’s great to see that the Paroproject gains more and more members from all around the world!!! I hope you will find any information you may need on this page. It is really an interesting topic and you can’t get rid of the paro-virus once you get to breed these jewels
Greetings Rafael
Hello everyone,
@ Peter: Yes, I will com to that list in a moment…
But firstly, I would like to show you some more developpments:
We have seen that some species have been breeded very often in high quantiities and are therefore really abundant. Others are not well distributed and therefore likely to disappear again. In the Graph beow, I present the developpments of the 16 most abundant species compared to the 42 further species.
I think it shows nicely how much the population sizes can vary throughout the years. Filamentosus and also harvey “Selangor” used to be reported in rather big quantities. Others have happily improved.
I want to go on and focus a bit on the unequality we find in the pair-distribution:
I took this graph exactly as I had put it into my paper so theres some writing in german on it… It shows the exact-percentage distribution of the Pairs that were reported in April 2015 on the different species. It is easy to see that this distribution is extremely unequal. The most common species; P. quindecim is hugely overrepresented: about one in four of all the reported pairs were of this species!
But it goes on: the four most abundant species: quindecim, linkei, bintan, and phoenicurus from Aq. Dietzenbach added up to more than half of all the reported pairs! The 32 other species and varieties shared the other half.Now I want to move towards what Peter suggested:
We want to know exactly how many and which species are endangered the most:This is the developpment. I grouped the Species into 4 cathegories. On the top, I put those that are the least endangered. 21 or more pairs of these specias have been reported. Then we have the relatively safe species that are rather abundant in the census with 9-20 pairs.
The third row shows the species and varieties we have to focus on the most. Of these many species, we have currently 4 up to 8 pairs wich is not so much. They face the real danger of dieing out within a few years. Therefore, these species must be observed and bred as intensively as possible. Currently, we have 10 such species:[b]alfredi “Sedili”
anjuganensis ct.
cf. Filamentosus spec. “Ampah”
spec.aff. Linkei “Pankalanbun”
cf. Nagyi “Cherating”
pahuensis ct.
parvulus “Tankiling”
sumatranus ct.
tweediei “Pekan Nenas”
tweediei ct.[/b]
Then we come to the 9 species that might very well face extinction soon. Thea are only represented by 1-3 pairs:
[b]allani “Sibu”
spec. aff. Bintan “Dua”
spec. Aff. Bintan “Sungai Bertam” ct.
gunawani (Danau Rasau)
harveyi ct.
opallios ct.
paludicola “Paka”
spec. Aff. Rubrimontis ct. Mimbon 2008
tweediei “Sri Bunian”
sp. “Parenggean”[/b]In the past, the vast majority of all species that have disappeared used to belon to the 3rd group usually at least a year before they disappeared and most of them then showed up again in the 1-3 pairs in the census right before they disappeared.
I want to ask everybody of you wo has one of the 19 above-mentioned pairs in his or her stock to focus even more on these species and make sure they will become better available soon.
Of course, In some cases, this might already be too late but hopefully, some can be saved!
