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I presume Beutho’s system looks rather like a solution administration set with variable fluid and lock-off control:
It’s what I always use to acclimate fish or shrimps before introducing them into a tank with different water values, or simply to add fresh water that has a lower pH.
From my behalf, I’m wondering if it’s really necessary to prepare a tank to a pH of less than 6 when planning to buy new paro’s. In the LFS, they might have been kept in water with a pH of 7,2. Will the paro’s support such big change?
[quote=”bartian” post=2397]I ordered some through my LFS though, so they should appear at Utaka in Amersfoort in a few weeks, when Ruinemans’ summer break ends.
Since P. tweediei‘s geographical distribution is fairly limited, it could as well be harveyi or [/i]alfredi[/i], which would’nt be bad either.They have P. linkei too. Quite big already and in very good condition.[/quote]
@Bartian:
Utaka in Amersfoort still doesn’t offer any P. tweediei. They do have P. linkei , and also P. cf. alfredi (both wild-caught) on their stocklist. Their video of these P. cf. alfredi was published shortley after Ruinemans’ summer break.Is there any chance that someone who buys a couple of P. tweediei in Betta’s Pride, and a pair of P. alfredi in Utaka ends up with 4 paro’s of one single and identical species, originally imported and distributed as tweediei by Ruinemans?
I’m glad to see that Armin has posted a picture shortly after I had requested him to reserve one couple for me. I will only have the chance to visit him in about ten days.
I still do hope they’ll turn out to be tweediei as well, and look forward to your report Helene
Bill, indeed, I’ve read your messages and Jennifer’s experiences attentively. Ruinemans announces to have about 200 of these so called P. Tweediei. I’ll keep you informed.
Referring to the P-Project Species-page, on July the 7th, Segrest Farms in Florida communicated to have some tank raised P. Tweediei available.
Congratulations Martin. These kind of pictures are very encouraging for those who hope to observe such events in their own tank soon or late. I look forward to see the next page of your diary.
Hi Teunis,
I’ve no experience with vinegar eels myself – when reading this, I believe I should keep it that way. I’am sorry to hear what happened to your fish.[quote=”helene” post=2326]
I am not sure how many days the ‘thing’ takes before it develops, thats something I yet need to find out, but now you might be able to learn that
God luck with the ‘hunting'[/quote]Yesterday, I’ve discovered the first larvae in my bowl since I had put the raft in it. So it took about 2 days. Using a pipette, I harvested small larvaes for the 2 young couples P. ornaticauda that I had introduced in a well planted 20l. tank last Saturday. They seemed to be very pleased. It was the 1st time they showed up all 4 of them. In the previous days I had been anxiously searching them. After being feed, they behaviour looked very territorial.
I’ll continue collecting rafts 🙂 that’s for sure.
Thank you for this interesting tip Helene!
While collecting some larves in the garden bucket this evening, I recognised two so called things and have dropped one in a bowl with water from the bucket. I hope to get the same result as you in couple of days.
It usually takes me about 10-15 minutes to collect black mosquito larves: staring at the bucket and catching the ones that raise to the water surface :blink:
Would there be a method to stimulate them, showing up faster from the bottom towards the surface?
Best regards,
S.The distribution service undoubtedly helps people searching for, or offering Paros. When it’s representative encounters difficulties as described above he can use the forum to post:
1/ a week or monthly overview of young P. species that are currently available, and invite everyone who is interested to contact him by mail or personal message.
2/ concrete requests for transport of Paros indicating the regions of departure and destination.
He might get an answer from a member who knows a truck driver, from someone who knows an english company that will have a stand on an international trade fair in the Hannover Messe, and so on.
Concerning the enquiries from Malaysia, I suggest to check a list of German expats in Malaysia and send a friendly mail to all these people who may come back to Germany once or twice a year.To illustrate the importance of using the forum in such matters, I refer to a message from Hugues Van Besien less than a year ago: looking for someone who will take my paros.
Best regards
In january I ordered some aquarium plants in Holland. I received a message that the parcel would be sent on Monday. It was delivered at my place in Belgium on Tuesday morning. I had to pay 7,75€ for this delivery service, what seemed rather cheap compared to driving 500km by car. According their website, parcels to Germany are quoted at the same price. Perhaps such kind of service can be suitable for transporting fish across borders as well. Using a heat pack might help.
But what for do we need a solution for the described transport problems?
This can only be an issue when a seller and a buyer have found each other, start talking about concrete delivery. Therefore, I fully agree with Volker.The forum’s trade-section allows members to report/describe species offered in local shops. For what reason wouldn’t these same members be able to offer their own fish ? Isn’t this forum the place where all people arrive to see, read and write when they are interested in, or desperately searching for Parosphromenus?
Nowadays, somebody from Berlin is offering P. quindecim ‘Nachzuchten’ on e-bay. Do I have to report this in the trade section if this same person didn’t want to communicate this offer openly on the forum?
Grtz,
S.As today the evening-sun was lighting up my tank, I suddenly realised it might be worth trying to snap some pictures without flash. Time for an update B)
Best regards,
S.[quote=”Lennart F.” post=2166]
By the way is there any topic/discussion/place trying to give an overlook about the “Blue line” types yet? Would be pretty interesting seeing the different characteristics and perhaps start an approach of grouping them… I guess there are a few fotos out there showing “Blue lines”!?-> Oh yes I’m a human, I’m trying hard to put everything in labled boxes![/quote]
Indeed Lennart. Wouldn’t it be possible to admire and respect these wonderfull Paro’s without giving them a name?
Due to this philosophical approach, I omitted to respond to a suggestion of Peter in his interesting message about Blue Line. Helene already referred to that discussion. After having described 3 different fish all called Blue line, Peter wrote:
Apart from the fact that the mixture of fish caught in different river systems is definitely wrong, we cannot – at present – hope to reveal the “right identity” behind the so-called Blue lines. To all our knowledge all of them come from Sumatra and there is never a harveyi or a species from Kalimantan mixed between them. All we can do is to separate the different Blue lines and take them as Blue line 1, Blue line 2, and so on. As far as we know there is no well-known species behind, only (perhaps) bintan. And we can say the following: If there is at all a single species (or two) behind the label “Blue line”, all are from Jambi/Sumatra. That is for certain (at least as our present-day-knowledge is concerned).
I have put one phrase in bold characters myself. I’m still unexperienced and unable to distinguish small details when comparing different P. sp. Blue line and/or P. bintan. But if Peter took pictures of the Blue line’s he had, Helene would be able to document 3 different Blue line‘s. Perhaps it would even be better to call them different forms of P. bintan – are there any P. bintan without blue lines ?
By the way: I very liked to see your video of the fighting males Lennart.
Grtz,
S.Good morning Stefanie,
As a matter of fact, yesterday evening I accidentally touched the Karma button using my small mobile screen to read some topics 😳
Karma is obviously a sensitive thing.
When trying to correct my wrong move, I learned that it would be possible only after 6 hours. I apologised in a pm, and planned to wake up in time today. His Karma should be neutral by now 😉Happy Easter!
Steff[quote=”Ted” post=1893]Paros Blue Line is available to me from a dealer. It is the first time they have used the name Blue Line and I am not sure what I might get get. There seems to be a great deal of confusion about what fish Blue Line might be from importers. I do have the room for another species but am a bit leary of what fish it might actually be.
Is anyone currently keeping Blue Line? .. or .. might it currently be available everywhere and few of you have also have it on the market now and actually seen the fish??[/quote]
Reminding the answer of Peter, I refer to the brand-new example of sp. “Jambi” Blue Line available in Tokyo.
Parosufuromenusu is probably a wrong translation of パロスフロメヌス :whistle:
However, it’s intriguing to compare the results of a search for パロスフロメヌス in Google Pictures with the images we get when using it’s (right) translation.
