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I will reupload this at night, when the bandwidth is less strained. It should liminate the glitches.
I just have seen some young males sparring. Interesting. First became pale, second became dark. They were showing off. Both males displayed “sex eyes”. Pale one “won” the starring contest and the dark one left.
It’s the third time I have seen such a behaviour.
//AT THIS MOMENT I GRABBED MY CAMERA AND STARTED SHOOTING PHOTOS AND VIDEOS OF ANOTHER “DUEL”//
Some pictures. Sadly, the older ones were shy today.
Firstly! The pinokio shrimp.
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“After”
The young male:
I think that it won’t be hard to find bintans. I have 8 bluelines, probably bintan, and they are like dogs waiting for food when I am around. First few minute they stare at You waitin for food. Then it’s the best moment to check them up. After some time they return to their hiding places and act normal.
torch – flashlight
soccer – football
lift – elevator
und so weiter und sofort, or something like that 😛 Last time I’ve been using german was some years ago.Again – the seriously fish site! 😀 This time I present you fish collected from Pulau Bintan:
1st
2nd
3rd
In my opinion, only the last could be P. bintan. What’s Your opinion?
It would be good, but sadly most of the peat is wasted this way. If you want to make it good, then find yourself old stockings, fill it with peat, and boil such a “Wurst” on the lowest setting. After sbput am hour you’ll get enogh peat concentrate to completely blacken your aquarium. Mine was hard to se through after an addition of about half a liter of such a concentrate.
Sadly, one of the Blue lines is swimming in an odd way. Almost vertically, but not in a courtship way. Probably some kind of an injury (concussion?), or air bladder disease. I hope he will get better, though.
I asked dr Finke about this fish. I’m uploading the e-mail, as asked by him:
“Sverting, yes, this is quite an extraordinary fish. I can well imagine one could think it’s a P. deissneri, but equally one could think it is not. I shall explain my opinion: It is no deissneri and should be deleted from a homepage trying to explain that species.
The fish shown exhibits some features typical for a deissneri-male:
The dorsal fin is rather long
The pattern of blue markings especially in the caudal resembles to some extent deissneri
The same holds to a lesser extent for the dorsal
And to a still lesser extent for the anal fin.But there are some important characteristics of a male deissneri missing:
There is no black filament at the end of the caudal
The caudal is rounded, whereas that of deissneri has a rhombic from
The length of the dorsal is not enough for deissneri
The markings I spoke of in caudal, dorsal and anal are not of the typical deissneri-character (short parallel streaks with clear black intervals between each). Even in the most similar fin, the caudal, they do not show that streaky form and they are not directed strictly parallel and horizontally.So, what is this fish?
It is clearly no deissneri. All deissneri we know (I have seen many from diverse origins: wild caught one by K. Bieler, G. Kopic, A. Brown, offspring bred by these and by K. Keibel, B. Wilden, B. Bussler, and my own) do not show any marked variation. The pattern of specific fin structure and markings is remarkable stabile. P. deissneri has one of the longest dorsals of the genus (XII-XIII, 6); in fact the male deissneri appear to be rather longly drawn in general. And there was always that typical pattern of well-isolated and parallel blue streaks in all unpaired fins, and the rhombic from of the caudal with a black filament of several millimeters.
P. deissneri is one of the easiest species to determine. There are very good photos of it, especially those of Keibel or Linke. Take the cover-picture of the Parosphromenus-AMAZON-issue, showing one quindecim and two times deissneri.
Nevertheless the picture is disturbing. Which licorice gourami does it show to us? I do not know. It’s a bintan-type with its rounded caudal, but I cannot say it to be typical for the one or the other. What disturbs me most is the statement you cite that this fish is an offspring of a clearly determined deissneri. So I infer from that: This fish shown here in not wild-caught. Its an aquarium breed.
Would it be wildcaught, I should say: Well, it’s new to us, or: It’s a natural hybrid, or: It’s deformed by immissions into his natural habitat. We have very bad reports of immission of old dirty tin mines into the blackwaters of Bangka (Yashuyuki Kishi from the “Team Borneo”). But apart from my conclusion on the basis of your citation that the fish must be aquarium bred it is very unlikely that so many clear markers of deissneri would be affected simultaneously as it is the case with this fish. That it should be new to us would be possible (if it is wildcaught), and that it is a natural hybrid, too. But both is not very likely.
One interpretation I have is that it is an aquarium bred hybrid including a deissneri as ancestor. This is possible, of course, although we have little proof of it. The female deissneris could more easily be interchanged than the males. The other interpretation is that it is an unknown bintan-type (P. cf. bintan) that shows a bit more variation than we see normally. We know that P. bintan occurs on Bangka, too.
At any rate this picture does not show a deissneri. So, it should be removed from the page that tries to explain that species. There are enough perfect pictures of that species. And I appreciate the written text very much: it is well-founded with one exception: Several times only one location is named again and again. There are quite a many locations where deissneri was found and still is found. Three members of our project will travel to that island in autumn this year to look for the real deissneri.”
Mine were rather easy. All that I needed was no sudden movements. After about half an hour they wouldn’t be afraid of the net.
The caudal fin in the first photo – the one on the top. When compard to the photo of P. allani I recognised the brownish-copperish patern with the black spot, I think.
They are availible for 1,5 Euros in Wrocław. The next shipment of the same bunch is in two days. I’ll get some for the 112 litres aquarium.
In my opinion P.allani.
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I take your post under concideration of course. You listed your doubts, I answered, normally you would find the mistakes in my thinking and point them out. That’s how the discussion worked last time I checked :D.
I am avare of the high specialisation in the genus, but still I believe that it’s a better future for them, than to be sold to other people in the store, that have no idea what they are getting into.
The higher GH levels are accesible with no KH whatsoever if minerals are dosed into the RO water.
