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Ted L. DutcherParticipant
Are you saying that it is possible to spawn twice in the same nest? (or) He could spawn again in the other cave? A funny little guy! I put another cave in there and he checked it out immdiatly.
He is following the females with pink bellies but I have not seen him go back to the original nest at all yet today.
Oh well I am certainly learning about Parvulus !!!!
Thank you, your experiences with them is priceless!
I only have 2 species now but the Parvulus are on top of the list…could it be called personality?
Ted L. DutcherParticipantGood news/bad news!
He seems to have abandoned the nest this morning… is out dancing again. This is fine with me. I’m very happy that they spawned and have learned tons from you all.
In my experiences with fish spawnings, the first trys are not always successful. So while I have this break, I will lower the pH some more. I’m not interested in looking in the cave, I think his actions are telling the whole story!
Will keep you posted… he is on the prowl again and there is plump female watching him. I did add another cave (bamboo) to the tank. I did also notice another male in the tank, not dominant not full colors, but flirting while the breeder was in the cave.
Ted L. DutcherParticipantI agree about lifting the cave…. just couldn’t help but look!
I am sure now that as long as he sticks to the cave there are eggs… and in a few days he will be tending fry.
What is hatch on these guys? 3 or 4 days??
It’s time to change some water but must wait, don’t want to change anything. Good grief, this like when we had our first child, I’m a wreck !!!
After all the reading I have done I’m surprised I have so many questions… sorry.
Ted L. DutcherParticipantThe eggs are all there and look good today. The male is sticking close to the cave or in it. I think thats a good sign, they would be gone by now if they got fungus or something, and he would most likely be all over the tank again chasing the others…. and they know he is nesting protectively, since I rarely see the others now.
I guess everyday my hopes will increase.
I must admit that I can’t just look into the cave!! I lift it very gently to shine the light into it. He hugs the side of the cave and watches me.. we seem to have a mutual agreement and is a good keeper of his nest.
These are incredible little fish!
Ted L. DutcherParticipantThank you Sverting, a great idea. That would make a concentrate so I need not “perc” everytime I make the RO water!!! My tanks are not dark, just a nice golden color.
Ted L. DutcherParticipantoh mercy no… the Parvulus are in the Bamboo cave which is not visable. I thought that was a funny part. There were 2 other caves available.. he immediately went for the Bamboo cave.
I will be turning the bubble filter way down as soon as I detect wigglers! I had the same idea. Thank you for the reminder! actually, I am anticipating try to catch the fry as soon as they are free swimming, I have a 2 gallon tank/jar on standby.
If the fry still use the cave when free swimming, I can put my thumb over the cave and move them all to the other tank. A store near us has wonderful 2 gallon jars and I think they would be great for fry tanks. The way the parvulus gobble down Moina, I don’t think any fry will have a chance. When my next tank setup is ready I will move the extra fish out and just leave the pair in the current tank.
Ted L. DutcherParticipantHelena, I looked up how to culture infusuria and it seems very simple so thats my next project (today)… and I need to start it now should the eggs hatch. Culture is easier than Moina, only with Moina they should be pink or colored to have any nutrients. So I suppose that with infusuria they just are what they are lol. I will try to get a picture of my tank setup. This is interesting how it came together. If you recall the male was dancing a couple of days ago. I had a clay pot cave and a film canister cave already in the tank. He had no interest in them. As soon as I added the Bamboo cave he was in it!! Hours later they had spawned.
[b]I will check the eggs later, He is very busy guarding the cave and I don’t like hitting him with the flashlight too often.
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Since this is the first spawn, i dont have much hope… I have raised many fish that require a little practice to get it right….. but you never know!Ted L. DutcherParticipantMy setup is a 20 gallon (75.7 liters) long tank. I have divided it into 3 sections, each being approx 6.5 gallons (24.6) liters. So currently each species I get is put into 6 gallon tanks. I always have soaked leaves ready so if necessary I will add more of them for hiding places.
The parvulus are in one of those 3 sections, lots of java moss. (I raise the java moss in a 5 gallon bucket near a window)and several types of leaves. I have no free floating peatmoss floating around since I make my own blackwater. A small sponge filter in each tank.
I must look up easy infosuria cultures!! Anyone ever use egg yolk fry foods? The thought of it is scarey..spoilage!
Ted L. DutcherParticipantI put the cave in the Parvulus tank this afternoon. I made the cave from Bamboo sections as someone mentioned here on the forum. He was going in it right away.
4 hours later I got eggs. stuck ok to the top!!! They look larger than I thought they would be, maybe 15 or so.
Now, I don’t know which female he mated with. There are 5 parvulus in that tank, so I doubt there would be any fry survival if all goes well as far as hatching. Was planning on getting the next set of tanks organised. This is now a priority. Best I could do is pull the fry when they are free swimming, and hope for the best?
Any input or suggestions are welcome!
Ted L. DutcherParticipantI got a better look at him. The spots on the anal fin look like long rectangles and on his dorsal is mostly a solid red band.
I remember reading that they can be quite variable or the different patterns are from different specific locations? Unfortunatly the dealer will not divulge the fishes origins. Maybe more like P. parvulus Babugus by the picures under Species Section….but as I said they are very small and not easy to view yet.
Have you noticed that they will do the dance when quite young? I can’t believe they may be spawning age… I estimate they are approx 3/4 inch. (1.9cm) which is about 1/2 full grown size?
tonight he did it again but I do not think it is actual breeding behavior. He does the snake dance after they have eaten and are all nice and plump. He is asserting his dominence via a courtship dance.
Ted L. DutcherParticipantFrom my research I would say that your TDS of 105 is too high. That would convert to approx 50+ uS
You can easily correct the tds by using RO water or distilled water, which will also drop your pH.
Congratulations on your first paros spawning!!!!
Ted L. DutcherParticipantSo these are my final pictures. The lighter background has really helped. What are your thoughts on these fish.. I’m leaning towards spec Ampah
The pictures are for males and female and I believe they “show” well.In a way if they are spec Ampah, we have a problem to a lesser degree as we have with “Dessneri” in that the 2 species of filamentosus and Ampah are NOT distinguished by the dealers.
Ted L. DutcherParticipantThank you, so far the fish seem to be sp Ampah, just by lack of color as in most pics I’ve seen. They are still young but have nice filaments formed on the caudal and are putting on some weight now.
I would have expected to see more coloring if they were filamentosus. Soon I will seperate the obivous pair I have.
With 6 fish there seems to be “sleeper” males so there is a possibly 2 more females but very hard to tell. If I take the dominant male out the questionable fish should change to more mature colorations and finnage.
Ted L. DutcherParticipantIRIDESCENCE… is it RED or Black…my favorite humming picture.
Ted L. DutcherParticipantHere are 3 more pics. Again the iridescense shows red. Can’t get the filament to show, I’ll have to come up with a lighter background.
Will try to get pics in more natural light.. I was using a flashlight to help, which brings out some un-natural colore for pictures.
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