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Several came to the front this morning looking for food (moina). I have started Brine Shrimp to, to supplement.
The fish have long parallel dark stripes the length of their bodies and very long pelvic fins (of the ones I have seen). Appear to have white-ish dots or markings along dorsal and caudal fins (near the outer edges), but surely too young, to observe anything definate.
Slowly dropping pH from 7.5.. targeting 5.5.. this will take at least a week.. dripping it into the tank.
Sorry if I’m over posting but this so much fun and interesting… you each have gone thru this too. Be patient and warn me if you see error in what I am doing.
Thanks again! Good news on new larvae, if hybrid, it will show in the young fish!! We cross our fingers for educated dealers and even harvesters, at least to seperate non standard market species.
Thank you Peter, I’ll be keeping an eye on them for sure.
My concern is that if the shipping community hears that they are Filamentosis, the 2 forms could possibly become mixed together, by the locals who catch the fish and the shippers. That would cause a possible disaster in keeping the newly discovered fish pure. The females may be quite difficult if not nearly impossible to tell apart.
Even the possibility of the new form being a hybrid exists because of overfishing and loss of habitat?
Those who currently have the spec. Ampah should keep them guarded, as I’m sure Paros Project members will.
Well that is exciting!! I suppose there is no way of a good ID on them until they are mature… They only have approx 34 in stock and I am hesitant to buy them all since we dont know who the importer is. If it were the same imported that shipped them into europe I would give it a go, but my shipper/store here in the States will not tell who his Asian shipper is.
Thank You Helene,
The dividers are plexi-glass or lexan or anything similar would work. I spray painted one side of each green. They are held in place by silcon caulk, must use pure silicone (rubber) they are safe for tanks. I can drain any section and they hold up well.(slight bend). I sealed them comletely, sides and bottom in case of possile disease or to maintain different water parameters. Our 20 gallon tanks are 30 x 12 x 12 inches, so each section is approx 10 x12 x12. I get the tanks when local store has them on sale at $20.00 each!! or used!!
ps: answered your email…the address was missing an “s”.
Morina culture is in place and growing well. Keeping them on the cool side to slow growth (will order fish any day)
For additional help try this website: edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fa024
It is the Universty of Florida website, hope you can access.Been feeding small amount of yeast and powdered (spirulina) algae. They are doing well and I will be setting up 2 more plastic containers… to be sure I don’t lose them all !
It is sad to hear about real deissneri but very good to hear that they are a form of filamentosus, and completely unknown til now. Imagine that they could have been lost without us ever knowing about them..and probably others.
We can only hope that the real deissneri is yet to return to the rescue mission we are on.
I have the time but of course not the money or would go to Bangka and find them!! what a dream.Interesting comments.
Peter mentioned “Oak Extract” well, I can tell you that my test bucket with Oak leaves is a lower pH than the test with Oak, driftwood and Indian Almond leaves, although the Oak has less tannin coloring. Unfortunately I did not test the driftwood and Almonds seperately. I suspect the driftwood (mopani wood)is highest in tannins but not in acidity.Thank you Patrick,
I also just removed all the subsrate in tank #1. Added 36 hour old RO at a pH of 6.3. Replaced leaves and driftwood and will monitor that setup.
I have the exact setup that you have mentioned !
Thank you Paul. I will be keeping a log on successful and documented breeding of species when I get the parameters. I know there will probably be great variations from breeder to breeder, but also some helpful info for others with possible problems.
Thank you Peter, I do agree with you to “keep it simple” on the Forum. I’m have new keeper panic attacks !! Setting up the new tanks and preparing to order some fish, my crazy brain keeps changing it’s mind on me..lol
And thank you for your 2 simple rules.
I went thru this years ago when breeding appistos. Also a black water (generally) and low Ph fish, although a different biotope. Too successful with them, too many tanks for fry, and grow out. etc. No one wanted the excess fish unless they were the super fancy colored big finnage ones!
This is different to me, to just help a species if I can. We are not targeting the aquarium business, but life itself. Thank you
Another wonderful post here, hearing of ones success at spawning.
I am very new at this, in fact haven’t even ordered my fish yet, although the tank setups are coming along great.
SPECIAL NOTE:
I think here on the Forum it would also be great to have a section where breeders post their water parameters for different species etc. to share with everyone else. That is one of the first things I thought of when I started reading this post.and CONGRATS to PauLH1968 !!!
Interesting video.
They are predatory feeders and we have seen that they also learned how to find cory eggs and wait and eat them when they hatch. They do seem to stalk and wait when hunting or feeding. Were the shrimp eggs hatching or near to that point?
Everything I’ve been able to find out about them points to live food mostly.
Wonder, would this fish also eat decapsulated brine shrimp eggs?
